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Created by: bluspy88

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 6, 2022

Published: Sep. 6, 2022

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I know I know: Stevie wouldn't do this. But, what if they loaded up some more? A very low risk move in my opinion. Lets assume Edvinsson makes it out of camp, which I think there's a good chance of. Why not sign Subban, who will not play every game? Maatta can likely be a good partner for him as a very defensive D, and you can rotate Subban in with Lindstrom if he is struggling or if you want to add a little more offensive look to the blue line in a game. Reminds me of the 2019 Blues using Bortuzzo or Gunnarsson depending on what they felt the bottom pair needed. If Subban sucks, 2 million isn't the worst thing to bury and you have guys like Walman, Oesterle, Pysyk and Hagg to cover. If he's good then that's great! If he's meh, its not like you don't have Lindstrom and can ride the hotter player.

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Subban, P.K.		1	$2,000,000

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Buried

Jordan Oesterle: $225,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$70,278,889	$0	$3,350,000	$12,221,111

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $2,375,000$2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Suter, Pius $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Zadina, Filip $1,825,000$1,825,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Smith, Givani $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Edvinsson, Simon $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 4	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1	Subban, P.K. $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA
Walman, Jake $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 3

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Bertuzzi, T.		Larkin, D.		Raymond, L.
	Vrána, J.		Seider, M.

Power Play 2
Zadina, F.		Copp, A.		Perron, D.
	Hronek, F.		Subban, P.

Sep. 6, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.

GMBL

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I don't think Subban would sign with the expectation that he wouldn't be playing every game.

Sep. 6, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.

NJDevils1317

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Quoting: GMBL

I don't think Subban would sign with the expectation that he wouldn't be playing every game.

As a Devil fan I would suggest he plays like he should play every game instead of expecting it.

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Sep. 6, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

MoSeider53

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No thanks, Subban's best days are long gone.

Sep. 6, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.

bluspy88

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Quoting: NJDevils1317

As a Devil fan I would suggest he plays like he should play every game instead of expecting it.

Quoting: GMBL

I don't think Subban would sign with the expectation that he wouldn't be playing every game.

Yeah I have to agree with NJDevils here, if Subban is playing in the NHL this year, he has to accept the reality that he won't be gifted a full time role. Otherwise, he'd already be on Arizona, MTL, etc. Now, if he does play like it, then that means the Red Wings are happy with the signing.

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Sep. 6, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.

bluspy88

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

No thanks, Subban's best days are long gone.

You could say the same for: Fleury, Jeff Carter, Nick Foligno, Marc Staal, Craig Anderson, Perry, Bobrovsky, and Erik Karlsson this year, and others like Thornton, Boyle, Stralman, Yandle last year. Yet they got chances in the NHL. Yeah, some of them sucked. But GMs continue to sign them even if their "best days are gone." I think if the Wings signed Subban for 2 million, and honestly I think I was being very generous on what he could get, and he scores 20-30 points for them on the 3rd pair playing like 50/60 games, I think they'd do backflips.

Sep. 6, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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No thanks.

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Sep. 6, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.

AZWings

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If you look at stats, Subban was good last year. GaR below Seider's but above everyone else in Detroit on D and G+-/60 the same as Seider. I think he would be redundant in Detroit since we don't need another RHD for running the PP but he's definitely worth some team taking a flyer on.

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Sep. 6, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.

IDKtbh

Stats Are For Losers

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Quoting: bluspy88

Good point on the “best days are behind him” response.

Although, I would have to lean heavily towards simply passing on bringing in Subban. I mean, maybe if Hronek goes down in training camp or something we could strongly consider him, but I just don’t see him being very valuable as a 6th or 7th defenseman on this team.

He’s always been a player I’ve been fond of but the fit just isn’t there and I’d rather just give Lindstrom all of the reps possible on the 3rd pairing.

So, barring injury; it’s a no for me.

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