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Just going off rumors Just guessing 11 and 7 to start

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Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 12, 2022
Published: Sep. 12, 2022
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I don't want Jesse to go but if its true and he doesn't want to be here then I guess it makes sense. I sure hope foegele has a better year
Not sure what to think about Jake I guess we will find what the Oilers do in a few weeks. I miss hockey and can't wait
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Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:06 p.m.
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Why would he have signed an extension if he didn't want to be there?
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.
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Wasn’t his going rate supposed to be a 3rd?
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Why would he have signed an extension if he didn't want to be there?


He was arb eligible from what I recall and it was mentioned teams didn’t like the idea of him going to arb to get a high ruling so singing early was his best chance of being traded

But now Holland has given himself little trade leverage here and from reports the most they can get for him is a 3rd which is less than what the oilers want for him
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Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Wasn’t his going rate supposed to be a 3rd?


Yup that’s all they can get for him but oilers have to take a contract back too and the oilers are refusing to take any money back
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:31 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Wasn’t his going rate supposed to be a 3rd?


Ehh, 60+ overall pick is nearly a third. But having looked at his stats form all his pro seasons, and knowing that we just had a former first round pick analytics darling in Sonny Milano that we just let walk, I don't know that we would pay even the late second.

Where we could we play Pull party this season? Maybe he can play 2RW until with McTavish Strome until McTavish is ready to move to center? But what happens when McTavish takes over 2C and we have Terry, Strome, and Puljujarvi to figure out at RW? If we put him at 3RW, we are doing no better for him than the Oilers, he want's top six time, but I don't think we just signed Strome long term to play on the third line. Unless we were planning on letting Terry walk and think Jesse could replace him.

The player that Puljujarvi CAN be I desperately want on the Ducks, but I suspect Edmonton would too, and he hasn't developed that way thus far. I just don't know exactly how we slot him into our current lineup without bumping either McTavish or Strome to third line in the future.

I know we want right wings, but it seems we are looking for RW depth and bottom 6 and I don't know how Jesse integrates into that.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:36 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
He was arb eligible from what I recall and it was mentioned teams didn’t like the idea of him going to arb to get a high ruling so singing early was his best chance of being traded

But now Holland has given himself little trade leverage here and from reports the most they can get for him is a 3rd which is less than what the oilers want for him
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But again, if he didn't want to be there, why would he file for arbitration? He's not going to get a contract that will allow the Oilers to walk away, so it would only serve to ensure that he gets stuck in Edmonton.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.
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How would the Sens 3rd do?
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
But again, if he didn't want to be there, why would he file for arbitration? He's not going to get a contract that will allow the Oilers to walk away, so it would only serve to ensure that he gets stuck in Edmonton.



Probably felt like it greater his chances of being moved as teams can plan and manage his cap hit as a known thing.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:46 p.m.
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Probably felt like it greater his chances of being moved as teams can plan and manage his cap hit as a known thing.


I think if he really was disgruntled, then Holland would have traded him at the draft, well before the arbitration deadline. Then other teams could negotiate whatever contract they wanted with him. That would have ensured the maximum trade return.

Unless a reputable source comes out and confirms that he's asked to be moved, I don't believe that he wants out.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I think if he really was disgruntled, then Holland would have traded him at the draft, well before the arbitration deadline. Then other teams could negotiate whatever contract they wanted with him. That would have ensured the maximum trade return.

Unless a reputable source comes out and confirms that he's asked to be moved, I don't believe that he wants out.


Ryan rishaud who is the best Edmonton media member has reported this multiple times, it’s a known thing that both sides want to move on but Holland is waiting till he gets his price
Sep. 12, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Ryan rishaud who is the best Edmonton media member has reported this multiple times, it’s a known thing that both sides want to move on but Holland is waiting till he gets his price


If that's the case, then Holland is especially bad at his job, because the only direction his trade value is going is down.
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Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
If that's the case, then Holland is especially bad at his job, because the only direction his trade value is going is down.


Correct, Holland 100% painted himself into a corner, 10 days out they need to move his cap space or else McLeod is missing preseason and camp as an unsigned rfa,

That’s why other teams are grinding him
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Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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I'm more old school. IMO if a player wants out...and he has let known to the media, the team should NOT trade him. If you do trade him, now you have 10 other players on the team who think they aren't utilized properly and want to move too, and half the players in the AHL think they should be on the NHL want out cause they want be in an organization that appreciates them.
Oilers have enough problems with secondary scoring.....no reason they should move PJ unless it's for a player that can help them immediately.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Wasn’t his going rate supposed to be a 3rd?


Yeah you're right a third. Hopefully the Ducks really believe in the analytics and give us a late second.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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I'm more old school. IMO if a player wants out...and he has let known to the media, the team should NOT trade him. If you do trade him, now you have 10 other players on the team who think they aren't utilized properly and want to move too, and half the players in the AHL think they should be on the NHL want out cause they want be in an organization that appreciates them.
Oilers have enough problems with secondary scoring.....no reason they should move PJ unless it's for a player that can help them immediately.


I'm more inclined to believe that this is actually the case. Holland shopped around and found no acceptable offers so decided to keep him instead.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
I'm more old school. IMO if a player wants out...and he has let known to the media, the team should NOT trade him. If you do trade him, now you have 10 other players on the team who think they aren't utilized properly and want to move too, and half the players in the AHL think they should be on the NHL want out cause they want be in an organization that appreciates them.
Oilers have enough problems with secondary scoring.....no reason they should move PJ unless it's for a player that can help them immediately.


Or, you know, cap space and not having a negative presence in the locker room.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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Or, you know, cap space and not having a negative presence in the locker room.


Yea a player can be moved for cap space, but for negative presence in the locker room. If you move a "negative presence", don't you just encourage some other players to be a negative presence because they want to moved too?

Don Cherry said the way to be a successful coach is as follows. On every team you have eight players who absolutely love you...who believe what you say and will do anything you ask. Then there are eight players who hate you. They don't they they utilized properly or not getting enough ice time. Then there are eight players who aren't sure what they think of you.
Your job as a coach is to keep the eight guys who "aren't sure" away from the guys who hate you.
Sep. 12, 2022 at 9:12 p.m.
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Yea a player can be moved for cap space, but for negative presence in the locker room. If you move a "negative presence", don't you just encourage some other players to be a negative presence because they want to moved too?

Don Cherry said the way to be a successful coach is as follows. On every team you have eight players who absolutely love you...who believe what you say and will do anything you ask. Then there are eight players who hate you. They don't they they utilized properly or not getting enough ice time. Then there are eight players who aren't sure what they think of you.
Your job as a coach is to keep the eight guys who "aren't sure" away from the guys who hate you.


Don Cherry is also a relic of a bygone era who thinks the league has gone soft, his arguments don't hold much water.
 
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