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Quoting: KingofRnR

Not True, MIN didn't get one for Kevin Fiala who had a superior year to Elias Pettersson: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/kevin-fiala and what makes you think Elias Pettersson will return more than Jack Eichel: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/jack-eichel He's not going to get what Matthew Tkachuk returned, I'll tell you that

If you're insulted, I would suggest you set yourself up for disappointment by setting your expectations too high, over valuing your teams player and/or perhaps just being greedy

A Great Team Starts with Great Defense, so in your Re-Build, focus on the Back End and work forward from there. Your Defense needs A LOT of work and my proposal would give you a good start to that

Lol if you are using Kevin Fiala as a trade comparable for Elias Pettersson, I don't know what to tell you. Pettersson played half the year injured. When he was healthy, he was scoring at a 100 point pace. Jack Eichel is not a trade comparable either, his situation was completely different. Before making dumb comments, consider the validity of your arguments. Matthew Tkachuk is yet another terrible trade comparable for Elias Pettersson. 0 for 3 in that category.

You still failed to justify why the Canucks trade their franchise forward, and another young top 9 forward without giving up any players of actual QUALITY. Sub in Nemec or L. Hughes and you have yourself a less embarassing proposal.

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

It's simple, to Trade 1 Very Good Young Player FOR 4 Very Good Young Players

Pettersson ain't no god or savior there kool aid man. You can give him all the excuses you want, he's not a 100 Point Player and certainly wasn't a 1.00PPG Player last season either. Again, JT Miller & Quinn Hughes are more important to this team than Pettersson is now. Other than JT Miller, Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat, Garland, Pearson and the newly acquired Mikheyev, none of your other guys have proven to be quality Top-9 Forwards who can put up more than 0.50PPG+. They're currently no better than the players in my proposal at this point

What would be dumb is continuing on this discussion with you, you come across like a cry baby. I feel like giving you a warm bottle of milk or something so you stop already

This isn't trading one very good young player for 4 very good younger players. It is trading one very good young player for 4 young players. They aren't top prospects. You are clearly a troll. You can't even given PROPER jutification on why Vancouver do this. Now you want to throw immature insults at me?

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Probably Nemec, Mercer or Holtz in there.

Pettersson would cost at least two of those three

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:30 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Are you done!? Or does baby need my big ol'soother put in that wide open mouth of yours to help calm you down and shut you up

You get what you give there pal. Relax, this is my thread, my fantasy and my world you're living in at the moment. If you don't like it, change the channel and move on, otherwise you're the Troll who goes looking to whine, cry & crap your diapers over an open online hockey forum, just because an opinion that is contrary to yours exists for heavens sake. Grow Up!

What am I whining about? I have tried giving realistic opinions and yet you can't seem to care to make a constructive comment. Jokes on you for allowing me to live in your head rent free

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:32 p.m.

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

Pettersson would cost at least two of those three

Yeah, only Canucks Fans would say that

I might be a bit light, maybe swap Thompson for either Mercer or Holtz, but it shouldn't be too far off. VAN has work to do on their Defense and building the Quality of their Prospect Pool back up imho

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:32 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Luke Hughes or Nemec starts conversations

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:34 p.m.

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You could get the other Elias Pettersson for that price, EP40 starts with Jack Hughes coming the other way

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:35 p.m.

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Quoting: Juiceman

What am I whining about? I have tried giving realistic opinions and yet you can't seem to care to make a constructive comment. Jokes on you for allowing me to live in your head rent free

This post is just more whining. The fact that you just won't stop, shows I'm the one who's gotten under your skin and am messing with your head. I really couldn't care any less about you or what you have to say

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.

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Quoting: Isles5513

Vancouver would probably ask for all three….

They can ask for anything, but probably aren’t interested in selling. And NJD isn’t trying to buy a center. It’s a mismatch on numerous levels.

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Get off the juice man. It's JT Miller's Team now and there's a Russian invasion happening in VAN, so better to cash in on Pettersson now and build around Miller and his Comrades. Trade Horvat too so you can bring Tarasenko or Panarin in next season. The Swede's lead this Team nowhere, time for VAN to go in a new direction me thinks

Those ARE quality Prospects. You can counter with something, but you know Jack & Luke Hughes aren't available. Take Dawson Mercer instead of Tyce Thompson if you prefer

Let The Canucks Re-Build Begin!

Okay, add Nemec, then remove Tatar (honestly what), now add Hamilton 50% retained. Maybe add a 2nd rounder and take Poolman's contract. Maybe we can talk then

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.

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Quoting: theleano1

You could get the other Elias Pettersson for that price, EP40 starts with Jack Hughes coming the other way

I’d rather have Hughes over Pettersson and whatever Vancouver adds to that.

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I’d rather have Hughes over Pettersson and whatever Vancouver adds to that.

Realistically Pettersson starts with L Hughes or Nemec +

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

They can ask for anything, but probably aren’t interested in selling. And NJD isn’t trying to buy a center. It’s a mismatch on numerous levels.

NJD's Biggest need is a Star 1LW imo. They pursued Gaudreau via Free Agency and wanted to Trade for Tkachuk but were unsuccessful

Pettersson plays both C & LW, so could be a good solution for the Devils, if their GM Allvin is more reasonable than Canucks Fans that is. I've already conceded swapping out Thompson for one of Mercer or Holtz, but now they want all 3 of NJD's Very Best Prospects (Picked #2, # & #7 Overall), which doesn't seem realistic or fair to me at all

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

You're misperceptions of player valuations is just sad

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:52 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Vancouver doesn't need to rebuild

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Juiceman

If Tyce Thompson, Shakir Makhamadullin, and Nikita Othotiuk are considered top prospects, this league is going to get a lot worse

Tyce is a decent offensive prospect. Okhotiuk is a future physical 3rd pair dman. Mukhamadullin has a very high, 1st pair ceiling but unproven in NA. I think all are NHLers, but none centerpieces for Pettersson.

Quoting: KingofRnR

Not True, MIN didn't get one for Kevin Fiala who had a superior year to Elias Pettersson

Brock Faber is a very good prospect…probably the best college prospect traded since Fox.

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Knuckl3s

You're misperceptions of player valuations is just sad

From what I know and have seen so far, being a Canucks Fan is sad. I thought the kool-aid in TOR & MTL was strong, but VAN Fans are quite the breed

Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

From what I know and have seen so far, being a Canucks Fan is sad. I thought the kool-aid in TOR & MTL was strong, but VAN Fans are quite the breed

Nobody is taking you seriously, it's clear as day to the rest of us that it's you who is high on the kool-aid

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

From what I know and have seen so far, being a Canucks Fan is sad. I thought the kool-aid in TOR & MTL was strong, but VAN Fans are quite the breed

All you have done is made irrelevant remarks. You are making a name for yourself as one of the most delusioned fans on this site. How can anybody take you seriously?

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Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

NJD biggest need - by far - is dependable goaltending. I think they will score plenty with the personnel they have in-house. Adding a winger may accelerate that, but not as much of a need as goaltending.

And I don’t think they pursued Gaudreau as hard as many think, otherwise Johnny Hockey would be a Devil right now. He had even said he was ready to sign in NJ.

Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:01 a.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Brock Faber is a very good prospect…probably the best college prospect traded since Fox.

Yes, they got a 1st + Very Good Prospect in Faber = 2 Pieces

I offered a 1st + 3rd + 1st/Mukhamadullin + a 2nd/Ohktiuk + 3rd(more like another late 1st/2nd now)/Thompson + Tatar as a replacement to make the $$$ work. As if, Severson for Hoglander isn't reasonable, considering VAN has tons of LW's and desperately needs help on D, especially on the right side. Severson is likely the Chiarot at this year's Trade Deadline, no!?

I see VAN Trading Pettersson before Quinn Hughes. Much harder to find a Stud Defensemen than a Left Shot C/LW

Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:03 a.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Gaudreau's a liar. he said a lot of things that didn't materialize. Yes, Goaltending was your biggest need, but signing Vitek Vanecek was a huge step in the right direction, so now it's a 1.00PPG+ LW in my eyes, since you already have solutions internally coming up to bolster your Defense, both at LD & RD

Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Only way I see that happening is if (a) that 1st is a very high one; (b) Pettersson has 8-digit contract demands; (c) Mukhamadullin proves up in North America. Pettersson is a superstar with no reason to be shipped out of Vancouver.

Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

It is more quantity than quality. I guarantee you the Canucks don't value Shakir as a first round pick. It has to be Nemec or L Hughes. What is so hard to understand about that?

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Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.

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