How does Calgary afford this next year?

By shedding Lucic and Dube's cap.

Are you losing a couple of Backlund, Mangiapane, Hanifin, Weegar, Andersson to fit him in the following season?? You said above that shedding Lucic and Dube, that's nearly 8 million so you're still short on a Robertson contract without re signing anyone.

My initial thoughts on the trade are take out Coronato and one of the 1sts and add/swap Valimaki instead of the 2nd Round Pick then get Coleman to waive and send him to Dallas instead of Lucic.

I like what Coleman brings to the Team but $4.9mil is pretty steep for a 3rd liner and Coleman waiving to play at Home seems more realistic and is better value than Lucic agreeing to go to DAL

As for affording Robertson next season once Huberdeau & Weegar’s extensions kick in, both Kylington and Toffoli could be moved by next off-season and I believe the Cap is projected to increase to $83.5mil, so it’d work

The flames can worry about that next summer. Move Backlund or trade Valimaki or move Weegar at the deadline. Lots of time to figure that out over the next 12 months.

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As for next year, you should probably look at the raise Huberdeau is getting. There is absolutely no way they can afford him without abolishing their depth and you traded all the replacement cheap depth too

Send Coleman, Dube, Pelletier, Valimaki + a 1st instead and then move Kylington and Toffoli by next off-season.

With the Cap increasing to $83.5mil CGY should still have enough for both Huberdeau & Weegar’s extensions once those 2 are moved

Sure, but without gutting the bottom 6 and building a team like Toronto or Edmonton with the have's and have not's in the line up would not be the solution. Running the C depth of Lindholm (for one more season), Kadri and no one is not the way forward. Every aspect of the team would have to be changed with a Robertson cap hit. It doesn't make sense.

Essentially putting Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov on the open market the following season with no depth in the system because this move guts the picks and high end prospects.

Gee you already traded Lucic and Dube and in the Robertson trade. The question was for 23/24 when Huberneau has already signed an 4.8m increase.

Nope, Lindholm definitely gets re-signed, but yes, it could come at the cost of one of Tanev, Hanifin or Zadorov. We already have replacement depth in Meloche, Mackey, Kuznetsov, Poirier and if/when we move Tanev, Hanifin &/or Zadorov it’ll be for Picks & Prospects to replenish the depth for the future

Tanev being the last guy I want to Trade but he will be 33 in December here and has a history of injuries, so we can’t really expect him to play like has for us forever. Might have to take our gains and sell him while he still has value in the off-season.

So in Lindholm, Huberdeau, Robertson, Weegar, Kadri, Markstrom you'd have 45 - 50M in cap space taken up, with a projected 88M cap. Let's call it optimistically 43M to fill out 8 forwards, 5D and a goalie. Andersson, Coleman, Mangiapane are under contract with trade protection, 15.25M. So you're at about 28M to fill out a competitive roster with a severe lack of high end talent in the system (28th ranked prospect pool).

My counter proposal has Coleman waiving & going to DAL, here check it out: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3680970

Wouldn't he have just signed in Dallas if they wanted him and he wanted to be there? They had the room but clearly the parties did not come together on a deal. To offer him to Dallas who is trading their best player and clearly signaling a rebuild is zero value to the stars. None of it makes sense.

Uh yeah so you maybe do not sign weegar- 3.5 mil free right there for 23/24. Move toffoli for picks another 4 million ish right there for 23/24 or trade tanev- another 4 million there. Lots of depth on D and lots of options

Things change. Once upon a time Nazem Kadri wanted nothing to do with the Calgary Flames and look where he is now.

Makes sense for Coleman as he lives in Texas with his young family, is making the money he wants and has already won a Cup.

My proposal helps DAL get better overall, so they could continue to contend. I don’t see them being in or near a rebuild at this time. They should definitely just re-sign Robertson, but since that hasn’t happened, Robertson is the hottest Topic & Trade debate out there right now

Thought you were a Flames Fan!?

Weegar is easily their best defenseman. You are acting like losing him is no big deal...

Well that's not true either... it's been said over and over again that he didn't think another team was able to acquire him so he vetoed the trade strictly to stay in Toronto. He said that even the year of the deal

How does it make Dallas better though? Giving up your top offensive player for two middle six guys an AHL defenseman and a prospect that projects middle 6 coming off a bad camp doesn't help them really.. Your proposal is essentially a 23 year old Huberdeau for Mason Marchment, Denis Gurianov, Ben Gleasson, Mavrik Bourque and a 1st. You taking that?

I can be a Flames fan and still have a semblance of common sense when it come to valuations of Flames players.

No moving Weager does not free up 3.5m. First he's on 3.25m contract and even if he leaves as UFA...his position has be filled by another player which cost $$$$. Yea maybe Toffoli could be moved...but his return would be very little, just like 7m Pacioritty who actually cost Vegas assets to move. 4.5m Tanev has M NTC....he can easily block any trade to a team (poor) team that has cap .

Flames paid a 1st + Top Prospect for Toffoli just 7.5 months ago and would return little to nothing now!? How does that make sense!?

Toffoli's going to put up a lot more offense this season, especially if he's in the Top 6, if anything, his value will increase

Pelletier is a Top Prospect who will be NHL next season if he isn't already. Dube still has a high ceiling and room to improve even more yet; he'll prove to be a solid Top-6 guy this year. Coleman is amazingly solid defensively and on the PK and can put up 20+ Goals and contribute offensively as a Top-6 Forward too. Valimaki would fit in nicely with the Finnish D-Contingency DAL has. They'd get 4 Roster Players for the price of 1 and although none are as good as Robertson, 3 are & will be very good NHL Hockey Players

Teams Win Hockey Games, not individuals, so DAL would get a Better Balanced Team is how they'd improve imo

We traded a first round pick to get Toffoli not that long ago so his value is still decent. Weegar is going to command nearly 8 million a season which is why Calgary has not signed him yet. Tanev would waive his M NTC to a rebuilding team who might give him a nice extention. You can give Kylington Weegars minutes and play Stone or Mackey and maybe Valimaki full time in 23/24 all on cheap contracts. Robertson is a 23 year old point a game player who is three years away from his prime. Calgary says yes

23 Year old Huberdeau for Marchment, Gurianov, Gleasson and Borurque? You doing that?

I like Weegar but I think I would rather have Roberston. Calgary is very deep on D.

I definitely want Weegar, but at $6.5mil/yr and in the end I'd figure out a way have both if possible