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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:51 p.m.
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Toronto Hyman all those years ago

But yeah there is probs a trade out there.

If we look rn

Craig Smith, JP, Kapenan, and others are in situations to where you can probs buy low and get a useful player

One of which we are familiar with


For me:
Puljujarvi, Tolvanen, McMichael, Gurianov, Zadina(INJ), Kravtsov, Frost, Foudy, Hoglander, Isaak Phillips, Heinola,
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
For me:
Puljujarvi, Tolvanen, McMichael, Gurianov, Zadina(INJ), Kravtsov, Frost, Foudy, Hoglander, Isaak Phillips, Heinola,


McMichael and Hoglander would be such good gets
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Nov. 20, 2022 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
For me:
Puljujarvi, Tolvanen, McMichael, Gurianov, Zadina(INJ), Kravtsov, Frost, Foudy, Hoglander, Isaak Phillips, Heinola,


Issue with Heinola hes a LD. Wish there was a RD besides Lundqvist who can play solid defense and has no spot on his team

But then again Niemela could be that next year. As honestly from watching him in Liiga he can be a 3rd pair in the NHL for 2023 if he has a good camp.

So in that case maybe JP
Nov. 20, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.
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Issue with Heinola hes a LD. Wish there was a RD besides Lundqvist who can play solid defense and has no spot on his team

But then again Niemela could be that next year. As honestly from watching him in Liiga he can be a 3rd pair in the NHL for 2023 if he has a good camp.

So in that case maybe JP


To me Just pay big for Garland and im set

Hes on a nice deal could probs score 20 with one of the big 4 lines, and we tried to trade for him last offseason but he was hurt

And hes building a house in the Boston area and apparently has been heard quoted as saying "he’d be amenable to a move closer to home." Toronto aint that far from Boston
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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Really don’t get what is going on. Just send him to the Marlies. Let him get some action.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
Brodie being out longer and seemingly having one of those pest injuries screams trade

As im concerned its one of those that will bother him for the entire year and hamper his play

And with Muzzin already gone not great

A trade for a 2-way D should be priority rn and at the TDL if forwards still got issues address it then

As for what D the one it factor is he needs to be good at rush defense and defensive zone exits
Nov. 21, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
Friedman needs new sources

As some guy told him Toronto would not be able to afford Frank Vatrano's cap hit even at 50%

5.625mill IS ON LTIR we could easily afford him

Also we interested in Timmins who I forgot was Sandin's partner with the Greyhounds

Honestly if Dubas went out and got Vatrano + one of Timmins, Foote, or Bogosian I wouldnt be all that mad.

Only thing is based on what I am seeing yeah if Ducks want a 1st + for Vatrano yeah no. As he and Jarnkrok got the same goals and assists
Nov. 21, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Friedman needs new sources

As some guy told him Toronto would not be able to afford Frank Vatrano's cap hit even at 50%

5.625mill IS ON LTIR we could easily afford him

Also we interested in Timmins who I forgot was Sandin's partner with the Greyhounds

Honestly if Dubas went out and got Vatrano + one of Timmins, Foote, or Bogosian I wouldnt be all that mad.

Only thing is based on what I am seeing yeah if Ducks want a 1st + for Vatrano yeah no. As he and Jarnkrok got the same goals and assists


I would be out on Vatrano regardless. His term is too much. We already have a skilled shooter in Jarnkrok who gives us more defensive coverage for a fraction of the cost. For Anaheim to retain for 3 years, we'd have to pay quite a bit. Even at 50% retained, Vatrano makes just a hair less than Jarnkrok. I like Timmins though
Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:17 p.m.
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Possession time x1000. And an unlucky bounce spoils it

Thats how unlucky we are

But its expected at this point as next to losing to lottery teams thats what we often see in this team lul
Nov. 21, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.
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Kerfoot this year reminds me of Mikheyev 2 years ago. Gets a million chances, does everything right, plays well defensively, but just cant bury the puck.

He should call Mikheyev as whatever Mikheyev did he should do the same
Nov. 21, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.
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Rielly going down is the last thing we need rn considering Brodie has a slow healing injury and Muzzin be out
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Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:03 p.m.
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Possession time x1000. And an unlucky bounce spoils it

Thats how unlucky we are

But its expected at this point as next to losing to lottery teams thats what we often see in this team lul


Thats a Dangit Kallgren

Like wtf was that
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.
Leafs in OT look like Leafs in shootouts 3 years ago

Terrible
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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Leafs in OT look like Leafs in shootouts

Terrible


Keefe needs to address this LEAFS IN OT ARE ****

Literally what the **** am I watching all these no look passes
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.
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Keefe needs to address this LEAFS IN OT ARE ****

Literally what the **** am I watching all these no look passes


Im sorry Marner and Nylander cannot start OT anymore as wtf are they doing

Give it to anyone else. Malgin, Jarnkrok, Kerfoot, Kampf idfk this is just getting embarrassing

Also do not have Holl anywhere near the ice 3 on 3.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 10:32 p.m.
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Went back and checked wow Leafs and OT dont mix and this year especially they be looking like ****

Leafs OT last 5 years

2018-2019 6-8
2019-2020 8-9
2020-2021 6-7
2021-2022 9-7
SO FAR 2022-2023 1-5

Best OT in the Matthews era 17-18 (12-7)
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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Rielly going down is the last thing we need rn considering Brodie has a slow healing injury and Muzzin be out


Is he out long term?!?! Because if he’s out longer than like a week, I’d say Dubas needs to make a trade.
Nov. 21, 2022 at 11:21 p.m.
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Is he out long term?!?! Because if he’s out longer than like a week, I’d say Dubas needs to make a trade.


X-Rays tomorrow

But yeah if hes out 100% trade I have 0 faith in

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Nov. 22, 2022 at 1:51 a.m.
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X-Rays tomorrow

But yeah if hes out 100% trade I have 0 faith in

Gio-Holl
Sandin-Liligren
Benn-Mete


Thing is.. even if Rielly is okay, the loss of Brodie hurts. I agree with you that Brodie's injury is one of those that hamper him for the rest of the season and so at this point a trade for a D is becoming more more necessary than previously thought.
Nov. 22, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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Thing is.. even if Rielly is okay, the loss of Brodie hurts. I agree with you that Brodie's injury is one of those that hamper him for the rest of the season and so at this point a trade for a D is becoming more more necessary than previously thought.


And there are options

Literally Boston wants to get rid of Mike Reilly cause they got to many D. Just send bobby mcmann for him
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.
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Reilly officially going to LTIR

So yeah expecting a trade soon
Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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Reilly officially going to LTIR

So yeah expecting a trade soon


Well, that's the worst news I've heard all day.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Reilly officially going to LTIR

So yeah expecting a trade soon


Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Toronto didn't make a trade. With our 3 best defenseman all out for a while, we need a defenseman that is going to push the needle and not just act as filler. Jakob Chychrun comes to mind, as even after Rielly and Brodie come back, he would still be highly impactful. That being said, the cost for a guy like Chychrun is going to be stupid. I could genuinely see us rolling a defense core of:

Sandin - Liljegren
Gio - Benn
Mete - Holl
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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Nov. 22, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Toronto didn't make a trade. With our 3 best defenseman all out for a while, we need a defenseman that is going to push the needle and not just act as filler. Jakob Chychrun comes to mind, as even after Rielly and Brodie come back, he would still be highly impactful. That being said, the cost for a guy like Chychrun is going to be stupid. I could genuinely see us rolling a defense core of:

Sandin - Liljegren
Gio - Benn
Mete - Holl


I’m with you, if Morgan was out longer I could see them making a depth move but with Brodie potentially back next week, I believe they will just wait.

If anything, I’m interested to see Hollowell get a look. I’ve always liked him.
 
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