Even if Engvall is traded as you suggest, the Leafs still have to make cuts to accommodate 1.4m Liljegren.

No they don’t. And I wouldn’t trade anyone yet (that 3rd line looks crispy), let’s see how things unfold.

Mete + Gaudette = 1.5m. Lily = 1.4m

They would send both those guys down (as they are down right now).

Still won’t work

You're right for a 21 man roster. Really long term term not practical.

they are rocking a 20 man roster right now. I think they are happy running a smaller team if they can keep all their guys.

The Leafs have mismanaged. the cap so bad....they can't keep all their guys, hence the 20 or 21 man roster.

I think it was a conscious decision when they signed Jarnkrok that they would do a 20-21 man roster this year.

More like a "unconscious" decision. But you are correct, for some reason they thought 2.1m Jarnkrok was better than having two players like Robertson, Steeves, Simmons, Gaudette on the team.
Jarnkrok for four years....yikes. His four assists in 17 games with the Flames I thought should have more of PTO than long term contract.

17 of 32 NHL teams are running fewer than their allowed 23 men to start the season.

TB - 20 men, $0
BOS - 20 men, $0
FLA - 20 men, $0

Teams were already up against the ceiling before, it's only gotten worse since the pandemic happened and flattened the cap with only minimal raises until 2024.

But totally, this is just a Leaf issue

It was conscious. Keefe talked about it this week in interviews. He said "we knew as soon as we signed Jarnkrok that we would be running a short roster this year" (paraphrasing). Jarnkrok has been a steady player for years. 2.1m is fine. 4 years is a lot but the contract is by no means terrible.

I'll disagree with your math. Tampa gets cap relief or "more cap" due to Seabrook on season ending LTIR. Also Bruins get cap relief as McAvoy is out for months. We'll see how many teams run just a 20 man active roster.

🤦‍♂️ TBL/BOS all at 20/23 roster


But sure, this is just a Leaf issue lol

it is just a leafs issue... Boston and Tampa have both had longer playoff runs than the leafs, so, while they're up against the ceiling, it works.

Toronto, not so much.

Tampa currently has $3M of Cole still on their books, he may have his contract annulled freeing up room, to which, they'll likely call up a player or two (Myers and a forward)

The point is, a 20 man roster isn't ideal.... 2 guys get the flu and you're running an 18 man roster.... one goalie gets sick, and you're running without a backup.

And again, Boston has McAvoy on LTIR, so they can easily call up 1-2 people to fill in, there's no rush for them though, and Marchand coming back when he does puts them up to 21

Toronto doesn't have anyone on IR that is counting against the cap (Cirelli and Marchand), and eventually filling the roster spot.

So, yeah, it's a Leafs issue... as they will be the only team with a 20 man roster for the full season because of horrible cap management.

Do yourself a favor and at least look at things before you type.

BOS currently has waived Mike Rielly (3,000,000), Nick Foligno (3,800,000) and Chris Wagner (1,350,000) in the minors (thats a little over 8mil in salary just sitting in the minors lol) I can only imagine what you'd be saying if Kyle Dubas had that much salary buried in the minors.

They just signed Stralman for 1 year a 1mil. So now once Marchard and McAvoy are healthy will still need to waive another player and have a 22 man roster.

And yes, TBL is taking advantage of having Seabrook on LTIR.


It is absolutely less than ideal to have 21 man roster (which the Leafs can have starting Thursday) and a roster decision will have to be made once Liljgren is healthy, but again, this is not just a Leafs issue. lol

who cares what Boston waived, I don't care about billionaires money being spent.

Boston: They have a 20 man roster, at 400k under the cap... which includes Marchand and McAvoy.... so when they are back, they have a 22 man roster WITH buried penalties.

Tampa : They have a 20 man roster, right at the cap after LTIR Seabrook, with Cole potentially getting his contract annulled, and Cirelli and Bogosian on IR.... so, when they are back, (assuming Cole too), they have a 22 or 23 man roster below the cap

Toronto: They have a 20 man roster, are $2.1M over the cap, LTIR Lil & Benn bring them under the cap (just barely).... if either of them come back, Toronto has to shed cap hits and move a roster player (Engvall or Kerfoot most likely, giving them room a player and an ELC)....

The fact that you can't see this simple fact that your homerism is showing.

To reiterate Toronto is the only team that cannot ice a 21, 22, or 23 man roster without having to shed a roster player to make room.

No other team has to move someone to play a 21-22-23 man roster.

So, again, for your viewing pleasure, and hopefully you can understand it this time, Yes, it is solely a leafs issue to be this terrible at cap management, Yes they are the only team that has this predicament.

For your viewing pleasure.





Best illustration of how capped out the NHL is: Red line is the cap ceiling, green is the cap floor, anything over red is LTIR obviously.

And yes, I love the Leafs

Why were discussing the cap and wrote that that Tampa and Boston are in far better situation than Seabrook and MacAvoy are on long term LTIR. Has nothing to do with the Bruins having wasted 8m in bad signings and have them in the minors. Want to discuss stay on topic and facts I can only imagine what you'd be thinking if you understood the cap.

Good bye to those who can't write honestly.

Clearly, because you're just spamming graphs that say nothing other than "a lot of teams are spending a lot of money".

You know what I see in that graph..... only 1 team in that graph, can't ice a 21 man roster without trading a roster player away.

So, we're back to the topic at hand, the Leafs are the only ones with this issue.

Can you show me a graph about skate sizes, average height, age, weight.... because that's about as relevant as the other graphs you've posted to the question at hand, an Engvall trade and running a 20 man roster.

Agreed, that's my bad. I usually like to stay away from your terrible takes.

Later

Kerfoot is a fill in center, not a full season guy. Is the 3rd line or 4th line the shutdown line? Kerfoot has proven that he isn't a shutdown center that's the reason they got Kampf.