I agree they could use him, but he is not a top pairing defenseman with Rielly.

Well it's better than playing Brodie or Holl on the top pairing, Rielly plays a lot better when there is a rugged defensemen right next to him that can play defense. Why do you think Lyubushkin played next to him last season?

Because it allowed Brodie to move to the shutdown pair with Muzzin. Lybushkin was the best option remaining but hardly was he effective. It made for the most high risk pair on the team. Rielly is at his best with Brodie. Everyone is at their best with Brodie.

Also Schenn is a 7/8 defenceman. Which is why Tampa had him in the minors at times. He's not good, if he was, Vancouver wouldn't have the worst defence in the league.

Schenn would be a great guy to have instead of Benn. But you don't really want to see Benn in the lineup ever so do you really want a different 30+, slow, pylon who can't be counted on to do anything but kill penalties and play sheltered 3rd pair minutes? He's absolutely not capable of playing top 4 minutes, you want him playing 10-13 a game no more.

Why are you talking about Benn? This post is about Schenn

They are the same thing. Depth guys you keep to be vet call ups. Schenn isn't good. He wasn't a starter when he was on a good team. He only gets as much playing time as he has due to him being on Vancouver that literally has no RD

Canucks aren’t trading luke schenn

You do know Schenn is playing as one of their more reliable defensive defensemen, right? Vancouver loves Luke Schenn and if they weren't in a position where they are in right now, they would lock him up

You do realize Vancouver is one of the worst defensive teams in the league right? So how reliable is the most reliable when the none of them are reliable?

so your arguments are : if you played in the.minor at some point, you will never be good again.
And : if.you are on a team at the bottom on the standing = you are a bad player.

do the leafs really need.or want luke schenn? it is debatable for sure. did you bring valid arguments? absolutly not.

If you are an early 20's player still figuring it out, then being in the minors doesn't mean you'll never amount to anything. However, if you have been a regular NHL defenceman for 10 years and then get sent to the minors by Anaheim, then Vancouver and then Tampa before going back to Vancouver, which has the worst RD's in the league, then yeah you aren't all of a sudden going to become a good player in your 30's.

If you are "the most reliable defenceman" on the worst defence in the league, that does mean you are not good. If Schenn was as good as canuck fans seem to think, why are they so bad?

so guy like tim thomas or devan dubnick who were at the same age as schenn in the minors were not good because the played in the.minors? you should tell that to the people voting for vezina cause i guess they didnt know.

and if i understand cocrrectly to, quinn hughes is also not a good player based on your logic? gotcha. hockey is a team sports man.

You are right, maybe Schenn can switch to being a goalie and become good. Because he certainly isn't going to do it as a defenceman. Hence the current abysmal state of Vancouver's defence.

and thats the statement of someone who is out of argument! have a good day!

What argument? You are here arguing that Schenn is either an effective top 4 Defenceman or that somehow at the age of 32 he's figured it out and now is going to rise to the upper echelon of defenceman? Are your argument is to mention two goalies from years ago.

How many 30+ year old defenceman all of a sudden become great?

i just said you brought pretty bad arguments (and they are). i think schenn is just an ok D, probably a good number 6 on most team who can take top 4 in case of injury at MOST.

but is contract is awsome though so expect lots of team to be interested at the deadline.

In Tampa he was the number 8 on good teams, Schenn is a good guy to have if you have 3-4 guys better than him all hurt. He's not a starter on a good team.

Being the worst defensive team has nothing to do with individual players. During the 2019-2020 season, Leafs were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. Muzzin was literally our reliable defensive defensemen and our only sound defensive player. Without him, we would be screwed even more

That's the year Babcock for fired right? After Keefe was hired their defence improved by a very big margin. But also, who cares? The team is so much better now. I think getting a defenceman may be wise, if Muzzin is actually hanging them up, I think that would be the target for sure. Not Chychrun, or any of these other scrubs, but I would hope to see a Muzzin esq move, someone like Gio. A smart and physical vet who can play top 4 minutes. That isn't and hasn't been for 10 years now, Luke Schenn. He should be your spare defenceman in the playoffs. The deeper you go, the refs put the whistles away more and the game slows down. Then when injuries happen, having Schenn is more helpful but you still would rather have your normal top 6 in place.