Uhh, what? Canes pass hard. Dermott has less value than Bear...

I mean thats v untrue haha. What do you mean? Bear currently has negative value because he is worth literally nothing but carries a 2.2M cap hit with him. He is about to go on waivers to see if anyone takes him for free...

Ah the old, a guy on a super deep team can't find playing time so he must be trash but a depth guy on a terrible team is super valuable because reasons.

I am a fan of Dermott but he's not going to be as valuable as Bear right now.

Schenn isn't worth a 3rd. Not sure I would give up more than a 5th for him. He isn't in the lineup when everyone's healthy.

No. Its the ol' "dude wants to play, team doesnt want to play him, he has asked for a trade, team wants to trade him and he is about to be given away for free" thing haha. Whatever then, VAN waits for him to go on waivers and takes him for free. Dermott gets flipped for a 3rd elsewhere.

Yes he is, and he's earned that job fair and square

Firstly, the amount of TOR ACGMs that have this as the return for Schenn is uncountable and secondly, unfortunately, Schenn is certainly playing if everyone is healthy... thus VAN needs defensive help.

Maybe or he'll get traded for someone offering a 3rd

He earned a job in Vancouver strictly because you don't have any good RD. That is a participation badge

In TO he wouldn't play if everyone is healthy. He does in Vancouver because they don't have anyone worthwhile to play

No it isn't

He'd play above Holl

I'm going to assume you're a TOR fan (could be wrong but you just have that vibe about you). Utilizing that assumption, I'll just leave it at an "agree to disagree" re: Schenn's value.

Toronto fans are impossible, which is sadly unsurprising

Schenn? Lol not a chance, he's so slow and has no puck skills. Holl has been playing more minutes, vs better competition on a better team for 3 years now. Schenn was in the minors 2 years ago. He's playing the minutes he's playing because you have no RD.

I don't disagree that someone may pay that much for him but it won't be TO. Like we still live in a world where Gudbranson got 4+ million and he sucks so badly.

Uhh, watch your wording. Friedman suggests he MIGHT. It doesn't mean anything is imminent. And he'd be claimed anyway. That literally proves he's got significant value. If he had no value, he'd be claimed. If he had minimal value, he'd clear and a contract spot trade could happen (Look at Beaudin for example). Your logic is flawed. On top of that, Bear is a top 6 RD. Dermott is an okay 7th D man. Bear is a RD. Dermott a LD. They're the same age. There's nothing that makes Dermott the more valuable player here. Come up with something better.

And all of what you said is false, aside from Schenn being in the minors

Dermott is better than a 7th D, he's a 5th/6th D at worst. You don't know that Bear would get claimed

No, if he wasn't good enough, he wouldn't be a regular in the lineup

When I have the numbers and facts to back it up, it's not false.

Who else are you going to play? Schenn, Myers.....what other options at RD do you have? Nothing. That's why Schenn is in the lineup

I mean I think you just made a word salad but forgot to dress it and left it without a point. Based on their abilities, I would call Bear and Dermott a wash. BUT Dermott has the better contract AND isn't being healthy scratched in favour of Chatfield haha. Again, if CAR were to reject this trade then that's actually preferred for VAN because Dermott's value is higher than a 5th so VAN just claims Bear when he hits waivers and then flips Dermott for more than the 5th I had coming back from CAR.

Myers, Poolman(when he's healthy), Burroughs, and Dermott(when healthy). Certainly not an easy way to live, but they have options

Except you don't or you twist those facts