David Savard another 1st

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Created by: OlegP

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 28, 2022

Published: Oct. 28, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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He's having a Ben Chiarot type of start to the season with top pair minutes, points and mentoring of Kaiden Guhle. Chiarot did a lot less and so began the hype that turned him into a 1st unprotected, 4th and a prospect. Savard's contract is a better bargain than the Wings paid on the open market for Big Ben.

David Savard was already traded for a 1st and 3rd at the 2021 TDL so we know how GMs feel about the guy. MSL is saying nothing but praise for Savard. The hype seems to be building and with an increasing cap, it's hard to imagine he wont fetch a HUGE price at the TDL if Hughes wants to deal. I'm thinking one of Edmundson or Savard will be gone by the TDL. They cant trade both guys with that young blue line. Without any trade protection teams like Ottawa and Winnipeg can actually get on the bidding as well which will up the price. RHD value is simply through the roof and Hughes is all about this coming draft!

Trades

MTL

Boucher, Tyler
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2025 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

Savard, David

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$71,891,666	$1,132,500	$5,277,500	$10,608,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 3	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 4
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Boucher, Tyler $894,167$894,167 RW RFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3		Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 2
Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
	Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3

Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.

jonh514

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He's up near the top of the league in blocked shots. If he keeps the offense numbers rolling we could maybe get a first if we package a late second with him to a desperate team.

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Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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There is no way this is even close man

Pretty sure he has closer to negative value that a good prospect a 1 and a 2

Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.

OlegP

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

There is no way this is even close man

Pretty sure he has closer to negative value that a good prospect a 1 and a 2

negative value..? lol you've learned nothing.

Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.

OlegP

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Quoting: jonh514

He's up near the top of the league in blocked shots. If he keeps the offense numbers rolling we could maybe get a first if we package a late second with him to a desperate team.

Problem is that he's going to get worn down eventually with these big minutes and blocks. He's been covering up a lot of miscues from the forwards. Absolutely beast back there. Your current price would be a 'Bear' price. The TDL balloons value with teams cap space accumulating. His contract is very good w/another 2 years @ 3.5M with no trade protection

Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:54 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

negative value..? lol you've learned nothing.

reread what I said -- I didn't say negative value

Oct. 28, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.

SK101

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Holy over value. His contract is not good and he’s old and slow. He might have positive value but a first alone is a huge overpay

Oct. 28, 2022 at 9:21 p.m.

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Dorion tells you to kick rocks lmao

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Oct. 28, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.

TheRealisticGuy

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

reread what I said -- I didn't say negative value

Zegras is closer to be worth a 3rd round pick in the 2023 draft than a 1st round pick in the 2023 draft …
That’s how bad your statement is

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 8:24 a.m.

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any team that trades big picks for Edmundson and Savard will be seriously disappointed and overpay heavily. Much like Florida and Chiarot. But ill get a good laugh out of it.

They are all pylons who look better because their current system doesnt require them to skate.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.

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let's have some fun and recreate this phone call
ring ring
Pierre Dorion: "Hello?"
Kent Hughes: "Hey Pierre!"
PD: "Hey Kent what's going on"
KH: "man have I ever got a deal for you. How do you feel about David Savar-"
PD: "no."
KH: "hold on hold on, let me finish. I promise this is worth your while"
PD: "fine, what do you propose"
KH: "David Savard, for Tyler Bou-"
dial tone
KH: "damn I never even got to ask for the 1st round pick too"

Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Dorion tells you to kick rocks lmao

SOG 24-3 for the Cats vs the 'pesky' Sens in the 1st peirod. That Hamonic and Zaitsev on the right side looks great. Enjoy the embarrassment

Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

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Quoting: emoprettyboy

Oh yeah a simple google search is too difficult to find out Savard was already traded for a 1st and 3rd in 2021. But lets deal in anecdotes gone wild

Oct. 29, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.

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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy

Zegras is closer to be worth a 3rd round pick in the 2023 draft than a 1st round pick in the 2023 draft …
That’s how bad your statement is

Bingo. The mental gymnastics of some folks that work things in their own head then write something completely different yet stand by it in 4K.

He tried to correct something coherent by saying he was incoherent. Which only makes you look irrational in the best case scenario. The logic of some ppl on this site.

Oct. 29, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

SOG 24-3 for the Cats vs the 'pesky' Sens in the 1st peirod. That Hamonic and Zaitsev on the right side looks great. Enjoy the embarrassment

Tie game though.

Also adding a horrific Dman doesn't help this?

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Oct. 29, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Tie game though.

Also adding a horrific Dman doesn't help this?

Better than putrid Hamonic/Zaitsev unless you think Cup Champs like TB didnt have room for Savard

Oct. 29, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

Better than putrid Hamonic/Zaitsev unless you think Cup Champs like TB didnt have room for Savard

Yeah, sure I'd take him over Zaitsev, but you don't honestly believe he's still the same level of player he was in Tampa, right?

Oct. 29, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Yeah, sure I'd take him over Zaitsev, but you don't honestly believe he's still the same level of player he was in Tampa, right?

these people are just delusional, thinking that their 32nd place season with most of their players being absolutely horrid all season (including Savard) has somehow not tanked their trade value since playing with the best team in the league at the time

Oct. 29, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

Oh yeah a simple google search is too difficult to find out Savard was already traded for a 1st and 3rd in 2021. But lets deal in anecdotes gone wild

so because he overpaid for after being on a top-end team, and then had a truly and utterly terrible season on a bad team, now his value is somehow higher? yeah sure buddy that's how trades work. Maybe I can interest you in Nick Suzuki for Derick Brassard, he was once traded for Mika Zibanejad

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