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Created by: noobmaster69
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 5, 2022
Published: Nov. 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Mayfield, Scott
  2. Varlamov, Semyon ($1,000,000 retained)
NYI
  1. Voit, Ty
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
3.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$74,039,783$212,500$0$8,460,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
-$2,625,000-$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:40 p.m.
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Why would the Islanders make this trade? (They wouldn't)
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Jester9881
Why would the Islanders make this trade? (They wouldn't)


I wish you didn't say "why"

So I can follow up with:

Could the Maple Leafs make this trade? (They couldn't)

Murray will be back soon, there is no way they can afford Varly.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
I wish you didn't say "why"

So I can follow up with:

Could the Maple Leafs make this trade? (They couldn't)

Murray will be back soon, there is no way they can afford Varly.


His point was this is trash value for NY.

Also I’m sorry Murray is coming back. That’s gonna really hurt u guys lol.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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It would take far more than Niemela and a late 1st and 2nd round pick to get Patrick Kane at 50% retained.

FYI Semyon valarmov has a 16 team no trade list. And all Canadian teams are on it.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles5513
His point was this is trash value for NY.

Also I’m sorry Murray is coming back. That’s gonna really hurt u guys lol.


I know, I was complaining about the word "why' only because I can't say "why could". Then someone else could have just "Should either team make this trade? (They shouldn't). Would have had a nice flow to it.


Murray returning isn't really going to hurt the Leafs. If he's bad and can't get back on track he would probably be getting less starts. They won't be better off with or without him at this point. The real loss is Samsonov.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:55 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
It would take far more than Niemela and a late 1st and 2nd round pick to get Patrick Kane at 50% retained.

FYI Semyon valarmov has a 16 team no trade list. And all Canadian teams are on it.


Supposedly Kane doesn't want to play for Toronto either.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
Supposedly Kane doesn't want to play for Toronto either.


Everything i keep hearing or seeing, Is that he wants to go to the NYR to play with his buddy Panarin. I can't see him waiving for any Canadian team when he's an American that has played in the States his entire career.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Everything i keep hearing or seeing, Is that he wants to go to the NYR to play with his buddy Panarin. I can't see him waiving for any Canadian team when he's an American that has played in the States his entire career.


His comments about the Oilers team after playing them seemed to me like he would like to play with them, but I think ultimately he would rather play with his buddy Panarin and perhaps he wants to stay on an original 6 team too, plus he's from the area.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Everything i keep hearing or seeing, Is that he wants to go to the NYR to play with his buddy Panarin. I can't see him waiving for any Canadian team when he's an American that has played in the States his entire career.


He's from Buffalo , I sure the Leafs isn't a big stretch for him for a few months. Entire career in the States?.....check again.
Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
He's from Buffalo , I sure the Leafs isn't a big stretch for him for a few months. Entire career in the States?.....check again.


He might waive for the Leafs, but i'm pretty sure that the Rangers are his top preference.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
His comments about the Oilers team after playing them seemed to me like he would like to play with them, but I think ultimately he would rather play with his buddy Panarin and perhaps he wants to stay on an original 6 team too, plus he's from the area.


Yeah who wouldn't want to play with Connor McDavid, That has to be a major point in waiving for Edmonton.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
I know, I was complaining about the word "why' only because I can't say "why could". Then someone else could have just "Should either team make this trade? (They shouldn't). Would have had a nice flow to it.


Murray returning isn't really going to hurt the Leafs. If he's bad and can't get back on track he would probably be getting less starts. They won't be better off with or without him at this point. The real loss is Samsonov.


So many Leaf fans are so delusional. When a Leaf goes on LTIR, they think it's a get outta cap hell free card. Are Muzzin and Murray on LTIR for this season and next? Seems to be the thought for so many. I if Tavares has the flu, some Leafs fans will be trading for Horvat or another centre cause Tavares will be LTIR for almost four years.
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Nov. 6, 2022 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Yeah who wouldn't want to play with Connor McDavid, That has to be a major point in waiving for Edmonton.


Both McDavid and Draisaitl were impressive in their game against them this season, and that they have come a long way since Hawks knocked the Oilers out in the qualifying round. I do think though that they need to upgrade their defense for him to truly consider them.
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