Again you’re wrong. All it takes is a quick look at the stats. He score 41 points in 60 games in 19-20. Zucker is even slightly outpacing Lowry this year too lol

Lol. So it's Lowry's fault that Zucker can't stay healthy? Pace is irrelevant when Zucker consistently misses half the season.

It’s not lowry’s fault Zucker had a core muscle injury and a broken leg, but you’re the one bringing up production . Zucker putting up the same points as Lowry in half the games would be outproducing Lowry lol. Zucker putting up more points in the same amount of games would be outproducing Lowry. I mean you brought up age too which is irrelevant and doesn’t really help your case. They are only a year apart lol.

He's been good but not worth a 1st rounder for the jets. If the jets were legit contenders and were one or two moves away then maybe, but he doesn't move the needle enough and he's expiring. Terrible asset management for the jets IMO

You're the one that brought up pace not me. I stated simple facts.

4 seasons back Zucker produced 2 more points than Lowry.

3 seasons ago, Lowry produced 6 more points than Zucker.

Last season, Lowry produced 4 more points than Zucker.

This year, Zucker is ahead by one point.

So where is Zucker's supposed point advantage? The only way he produces more points than Lowry is if you use pace. Which as I said is meaningless when Zucker consistently misses half the season.

No I brought up production. 20 points in 40 games is better production than 20 points in 80 games. 20 points in 40 games is .5 ppg. 20 points in 80 games is .25 ppg.
4 seasons ago Zucker produced 31 more points than Lowry. Again a simple look at the stats. Shows that. Zucker in 15 games with the pens outproduced Lowry’s 49 game total by 2 points. But Zuckers 45 games with Minnesota doesn’t magically disappear.
I mean if you don’t understand stats, then there is just no help for you.

Right, so you're sticking to pace and don't want to admit it.

See if this helps you understand how stats work. Go to NHL.com and look at Zucker's points and Lowry's points in each of the last 3 seasons. Who produced more? See that's pretty easy. Just like I laid out in my previous post. Lowry has put up more points in 2 of the last 3 seasons.

It doesn't matter how many games it took them to do it (that's pace). It just matters how many points they produced fire their team in a season. It's not Lowry's fault that Zucker is injury prone.

Lowry had been putting up more points than Zucker in 2 of the last 3 year's and is younger and cheaper.

Pace very much matters, you're just wrong here.

For your argument to stand up, I agree, yes it is very important. In reality you are flat out, 100% wrong.

Pace is meaningless, when a players consistently misses half the season. At the end of the day it is what you produce for your team in any given season.

This reminds me of all those Montreal fans that constantly tried to convince everyone that Domi was a consistent 70 point player.

I understand you don't like Lowry and don't want to admit to the obvious double standard, but the rebuttal is a little flimsy.

Point pace is one of the most important stats imo and even in Zucker's recent injury shortened seasons he was putting up points at a 35-40 point pace which is pretty decent.

A guy who plays most of the season but doesn't produce enough for his ice time and usage is a useless player imo.

Okay, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I can understand the pace argument in some circumstances, but just don't see it here. The overall effect, scoring wise, of Zucker and Lowry is basically the same over the course of a team's 82 game season. If it was just once that Zucker had missed a large chunk of games I could see it more, but he seems to be a fairly consistent in missing games.

I'm just saying, they are very similar players, if you judge them without giving one player all the benefits of the doubts.

Ppg isn’t a stat recording the players pace. It’s recording the players production. A player who scores 20 points in 40 games is twice as productive as a player scoring 20 in 80 games. Again you don’t understand stats and just keep trying to twist things, so it’s useless discussing it. If McDavid got injured next game and Lowry puts up 25 points in 82 games you’d think Lowry was more productive and worth more.