Potential Horvat deals

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Created by: Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 13, 2022

Published: Nov. 13, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

NOTE:
I know not every team wants him. But I am doing this j for fun.

Trades

VAN

Beecher, John ($925,000)
2023 1st round pick (BOS) (Top 16 Protected)
Mike Reilly

2024 4th round pick (BOS) (goes to ARZ for 25% retention)

BOS

Bo Horvat (50% retained)

VAN

Cameron Whynot
2023 1st round pick (CGY) (top 10 protected)
2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
Milan Lucic (proceeds to get flipped at 50% retained to a team he is willing to waive for)

2024 4th round pick (CGY) for (25% retention on Lucic) from CGY

CGY

Bo Horvat 50% retained
2023 4th round pick (NYR)

I know that the Flames have a lot of forward depth, but A. You can never have too much center depth and B. You could play him on the wing or move a C to the wing. or C. An injury makes you need to make a trade for a C.

VAN

Bowers, Shane ($750,000) (this is at TDL when he is healthy FYI)
2023 1st round pick (COL)
Foudy, Jean-Luc ($847,500)

2026 3rd round pick (COL) to Seattle for 25% retention (3 years out so is a slightly better pick)

COL

Bo Horvat (50% retained)

VAN

Kravtsov, Vitali ($875,000)
2023 1st round pick (DAL) (worse of the Rangers two 2023 first rounders)
Reaves, Ryan ($1,750,000)

2024 4th round pick (NYR) to ARZ for 25% retention

NYR

Bo Horvat (50% retention)
Spencer Martin

VAN

Minten, Fraser ($875,000)
2023 1st round pick (TOR)
Voit, Ty ($817,778)
2025 4th round pick (TOR)

2024 4th round pick (TOR) to ARZ for 25% retention

TOR

Bo Horvat (50% retention)
Ethan Bear (50% retention)

VAN

EDIT: No Minten. Voit took his place and i forgot to take him out lol

TOR

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $1,900,000
Jake Virtanen: $500,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$79,447,917	$1,250,000	$2,082,500	$3,052,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 1	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Kuzmenko, Andrei $950,000$950,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Åman, Nils $883,750$883,750 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2	Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 2
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Dries, Sheldon $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Bear, Ethan $1,800,000$1,800,000 RD UFA - 1	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 2
Stillman, Riley $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD RFA - 2	Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3
		Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.

TheAlien

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The Leafs one with Minten is the only one that's kinda close. The rest are underpayments

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.

Juiceman

Ex Nucks fan

Joined: Jun. 2021

Posts: 17,615

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Late first and low end prospects would be a very poor offer for Horvat 50% retained

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Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.

Brad_Treliving

Joined: Oct. 2021

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Leafs don't want Bear but we would easily take do that trade for Horvat

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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The Boston trade is pretty laugh

Beecher and Reilly have very little value, So it's basically a late 1st for Horvat at 50% retained, No way in hell does Vancouver accept that.

The Calgary trade is garbage as well, Lucic and a bunch of late picks doesn't nab Horvat at 50% retained.

Colorado Shane Bowers is 23 years old with 0 NHL experience plus a late 1st and Jean-Luc Foudy needs to be a far better offer than that.

Sorry but Kravtsov+Dallas 2023 1st round pick 17-21 overall range and Reeves is a pathetic offer. And besides NYR don't have $8,000,000 per to give Horvat as their 3C.

laugh

Voit a late 1st round pick and a late 4th doesn't even come close to getting Bo Horvat at 50% retained.

All of these trades are laugh

bad for Vancouver. And i'm not even a Canuck fan and these trades are horrendous. They might be fine for rentals. but Allvin will want to deal Horvat to a team that will sign him long term for a better package. And none of these are them.

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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These are all pretty decent.

What would you think would be fair value for Montreal?

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.

rollie1967

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those are all awful for the Canucks. none remotely acceptable.

Nov. 13, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.

Logan_Ollivier

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Quoting: TheAlien

The Leafs one with Minten is the only one that's kinda close. The rest are underpayments

Voit I would give up and likely add something but I wouldn't trade Minten, I might even move Knies over him.

Nov. 13, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.

Jimbo1119

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Rangers pass easily

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Nov. 13, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.

GMBL

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

These might be fine for rentals. but Allvin will want to deal Horvat to a team that will sign him long term for a better package. And none of these are them.

I agree, that's what he will want but doesn't mean that's what he will get. I think of Detroit and Columbus as being options, I think Detroit would be sending back their own rental in a watered-down package, Columbus might be able to give something better but they probably don't. I'm going to guess that Vancouver isn't going to get a blow away offer from him unless it's from a contender or in a ufa swap.

Nov. 13, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.

#10

delneggs

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Rangers PASS, no need for another top 6 center, much better trade targets out there.

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Nov. 13, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.

#11

TheAlien

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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier

Voit I would give up and likely add something but I wouldn't trade Minten, I might even move Knies over him.

Fine then give us Knies

Nov. 13, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.

#12

Logan_Ollivier

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Quoting: TheAlien

Fine then give us Knies

I wouldn't do that either, and if I did it would be for a better player than Horvat.

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Nov. 13, 2022 at 10:17 p.m.

#13

Juiceman

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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier

I wouldn't do that either, and if I did it would be for a better player than Horvat.

Good luck

Nov. 13, 2022 at 10:21 p.m.

#14

Logan_Ollivier

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Quoting: Juiceman

Good luck

You guys are going to be so disappointed

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Nov. 13, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.

#15

Hockeypal

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I mean decent value I wouldn’t pay no where near that unless he comes with an extension. Apparently Horvat wants to be paid like a 1st liner I’d stay away from him personally.

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Nov. 14, 2022 at 8:23 a.m.

#16

odyssey

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leafs accept but he would definitely walk unless they trade nylander in the off season to re sign him

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