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Going for it at the TDL - Kane

Created by: Fulton_Reed
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 15, 2022
Published: Nov. 15, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
NJD
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Daws, Nico
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$72,940,792$0$1,332,500$9,559,208
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,450,000$5,450,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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-$2,625,000-$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$975,000$975,000
C
RFA - 1

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Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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That offer might get beat tbh. I would see Chicago wanting Holtz.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
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That offer might get beat tbh. I would see Chicago wanting Holtz.


Nobody is giving up a Holtz caliber player for a TDL rental.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:19 a.m.
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Some team will overpay for Kane and completely regret it

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Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Some team will overpay for Kane and completely regret it

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It's almost as if he plays for an awful team or something. Are you really trying to make an arguyment that Kane isn't good?
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Fulton_Reed
It's almost as if he plays for an awful team or something. Are you really trying to make an arguyment that Kane isn't good?


I am absolutely making that argument. He has been on the decline and I look forward to the team that gives up a 2023 1st + for him
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Some team will overpay for Kane and completely regret it

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It won't be the Devils for exactly this reason. Analytics plays a huge part in their decisionmaking
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:35 a.m.
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We shouldn't be trading goalies. Or Muk.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
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We shouldn't be trading goalies. Or Muk.


You have 2 RD men signed long term and Nemec. Blackwood will be fine long term and if not Vanacek is more than capable. If this puts you into actual contender mode, I think you don't worry about those depth pieces
Nov. 15, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
I am absolutely making that argument. He has been on the decline and I look forward to the team that gives up a 2023 1st + for him


Kane hasn't had a true #1C or even 2C in like 5 years. C impacts defensive play far greater than the W so if you have bad Cs all the time, your numbers will suffer. He gets that #1 C with Hughes and I guarantee he would explode.
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
I am absolutely making that argument. He has been on the decline and I look forward to the team that gives up a 2023 1st + for him


laugh he has not been on the decline unless of course you think 92 points last year is declining marking his 3rd best year of his career
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Don't know enough about Mukhamadullin, but the Hawks have two great RHD prospects in Regula and Mitchell plus jones signed long term in addition to not needing Daws given a strong goalie pipeline so don't see them interested in this package given the 1st is the only really useful value to them. Probably would just rather hang on to Kane given the revenues he brings to the team alone.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Fulton_Reed
You have 2 RD men signed long term and Nemec. Blackwood will be fine long term and if not Vanacek is more than capable. If this puts you into actual contender mode, I think you don't worry about those depth pieces


For a one year rental though...we aren't gunning for a one-and-done, we are building something that will last.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Kane hasn't had a true #1C or even 2C in like 5 years. C impacts defensive play far greater than the W so if you have bad Cs all the time, your numbers will suffer. He gets that #1 C with Hughes and I guarantee he would explode.


Longer then that. It's been since playing with Toews which goes back 10 plus years that he had a true 1C. I agree next to Hughes both of them would be off the charts
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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For a one year rental though...we aren't gunning for a one-and-done, we are building something that will last.


How does this kill your chances for the future?

Your RD is all long term, your goalies are long term, at least Blackwood is as an RFA and that 1st should be a late first if you make the run you should.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Don't know enough about Mukhamadullin, but the Hawks have two great RHD prospects in Regula and Mitchell plus jones signed long term in addition to not needing Daws given a strong goalie pipeline so don't see them interested in this package given the 1st is the only really useful value to them. Probably would just rather hang on to Kane given the revenues he brings to the team alone.

Mukhamadullin is big, long-reach, highly skilled dman. Very high ceiling, no floor type. He has all the tools, skating, shot, etc just a little thin and a little raw. He is currently 2nd in KHL in scoring for under-25 dmen.

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Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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Mukhamadullin is big, long-reach, highly skilled dman. Very high ceiling, no floor type. He has all the tools, skating, shot, etc just a little thin and a little raw. He is currently 2nd in KHL in scoring for under-25 dmen.

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I don't care what he is or isn't. I'd move him in a deal for Kane. Maybe this is an overpay so you take out a pick or something but CHI will want something of quality back.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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I don't care what he is or isn't. I'd move him in a deal for Kane. Maybe this is an overpay so you take out a pick or something but CHI will want something of quality back.


I’m pretty sure our GM cares what he is.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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I’m pretty sure our GM cares what he is.


I'm sure your GM would actually like to do something come playoff time too. It's been a hot minute.
Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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I'm sure your GM would actually like to do something come playoff time too. It's been a hot minute.


He has explicitly said he will not be chasing rentals. He is actively seeking a “hockey trade”.
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Nov. 15, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Hard pass. Keep Kane far away from my Devils
 
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