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Buffalo - Offseason

Created by: Arh613
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2022
Published: Dec. 13, 2022
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Description
Team would definitely need an upgrade in goal and the trade values are probably a bit off, but I like the idea of adding these guys to solidify our lineup & depth. All trades happen in the offseason. Ideally we can use UPL & another pick to add a goalie if there isnt a viable UFA option
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,750,000
2$2,200,000
3$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Jokiharju, Henri ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
23 1st = 12-16OA
2.
MIN
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey ($1,250,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$72,902,737$0$3,145,000$10,597,263
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
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$687,500$687,500
RD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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Sure Boston would take your garbage players in exchange of a solid shutdown top 4 dman locked-up for long term at a reasonable cap hit
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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Doing nothing about the goaltending is a crime.
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: pbesner30
Sure Boston would take your garbage players in exchange of a solid shutdown top 4 dman locked-up for long term at a reasonable cap hit


I guess you missed the top 15 1st round pick in a loaded draft? And a 2nd round pick? And a youngish rhd who is solid and inexpensive?
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Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Doing nothing about the goaltending is a crime.


I agree! I mentioned that in the description! I haven't really looked too much into the upcoming UFA's, and UPL/Portillo and a 2nd could get us at least a decent short term starter I'd think. My focus was more on the skaters for this one
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I guess you missed the top 15 1st round pick in a loaded draft? And a 2nd round pick? And a youngish rhd who is solid and inexpensive?


I've also looked through basically all of the Bruins ACGM's and this proposal would certainly be the biggest on there that I've seen, especially w/ retention on Joki down to 1.25 AAV and then him being an RFA
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I guess you missed the top 15 1st round pick in a loaded draft? And a 2nd round pick? And a youngish rhd who is solid and inexpensive?


Jokiharju for Carlo would be a major downgrade, because Joki isn't a solid top 4 dman. At best he is a top 6 guy and he isn't as good as Carlo to kill penalties. Boston doesn't need nor want middle round picks at the draft, they want players to win now.
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
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Jokiharju for Carlo would be a major downgrade, because Joki isn't a solid top 4 dman. At best he is a top 6 guy and he isn't as good as Carlo to kill penalties. Boston doesn't need nor want middle round picks at the draft, they want players to win now.


This is next year.

Also, jokiharju has been quite solid playing 20 mins a night
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Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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Jokiharju for Carlo would be a major downgrade, because Joki isn't a solid top 4 dman. At best he is a top 6 guy and he isn't as good as Carlo to kill penalties. Boston doesn't need nor want middle round picks at the draft, they want players to win now.


It's a high first and yes Carlo is a top 4 dman, but they play him on the bottom pair, so downgrading a luxury asset, adding ~3mill in cap space, and boosting one of, if not the, weakest prospect pools in the league isn't as bad as you are making it sound and that doesn't include the second round pick
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.
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It's a high first and yes Carlo is a top 4 dman, but they play him on the bottom pair, so downgrading a luxury asset, adding ~3mill in cap space, and boosting one of, if not the, weakest prospect pools in the league isn't as bad as you are making it sound and that doesn't include the second round pick


I don't know if we watch the same hockey games, but Carlo is played on the 2nd pair along with Grzelcyk, Forbort-Clifton is the 3rd pairing. Our 3 pairs are just so good that Montgomery can distribute the ice time in a more equal way than other teams do. That's why his TOI is a bit lower than usual, but he is in the top 4.
Like I said, Boston doesn't care about picks plus with what we are getting isn't that interesting. Make it a top 10 pick minus the 2nd round pick and now we talk. Otherwise, Boston declines.
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Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:43 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.
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I don't know if we watch the same hockey games, but Carlo is played on the 2nd pair along with Grzelcyk, Forbort-Clifton is the 3rd pairing. Our 3 pairs are just so good that Montgomery can distribute the ice time in a more equal way than other teams do. That's why his TOI is a bit lower than usual, but he is in the top 4.
Like I said, Boston doesn't care about picks plus with what we are getting isn't that interesting. Make it a top 10 pick minus the 2nd round pick and now we talk. Otherwise, Boston declines.


https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/boston-bruins/line-combinations/
We aren't watching the same games, I'm watching the Sabres who I'm pretty confident you aren't watching (and why would you when you are a Bruins fan!), but acting like this is a complete non-offer is silliness.

And fair enough, but I'm confused as to why you'd rather have pick 10 then, picks 12 & 55? Also, acquiring a draft pick doesn't mean that you need to draft somebody, you could also trade those assets to acquire "win-now" assets...

P.S. you should review some of your fellow Bruins fan ACGM's because they are giving Carlo away for a lot less
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Arh613
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/boston-bruins/line-combinations/
We aren't watching the same games, I'm watching the Sabres who I'm pretty confident you aren't watching (and why would you when you are a Bruins fan!), but acting like this is a complete non-offer is silliness.

And fair enough, but I'm confused as to why you'd rather have pick 10 then, picks 12 & 55?

P.S. you should review some of your fellow Bruins fan ACGM's because they are giving Carlo away for a lot less


I don't understand why people are trading Carlo honestly, I think it's because Clifton really stepped up but he isn't a legit top 4 dman in my opinion.
For the picks, I'd give rather have quality than quantity, because Sweeney isn't the best at drafting (despite some steals, Pasta, Lysell).
As I said, DailyFaceoff isn't accurate because Monty plays them equally, their TOI depends of special teams.
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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I don't understand why people are trading Carlo honestly, I think it's because Clifton really stepped up but he isn't a legit top 4 dman in my opinion.
For the picks, I'd give rather have quality than quantity, because Sweeney isn't the best at drafting (despite some steals, Pasta, Lysell).
As I said, DailyFaceoff isn't accurate because Monty plays them equally, their TOI depends of special teams.


Like I said completely fair, I only used the idea because I saw it a few times from Bruins fans and thought that if he is for sale, I'd love the Sabres to go and get him
Dec. 13, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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Minnesota should say no. Value is probably close, Johnson doesn’t make sense to target.
Dec. 13, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Sure Boston would take your garbage players in exchange of a solid shutdown top 4 dman locked-up for long term at a reasonable cap hit


Jokiharju isnt even a garbage player, but the majority of the trade is picks. 0 chance Boston does it still
Dec. 13, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.
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Minnesota declines. They aren't trading Jordan greenway for Middlestat and unsigned ld they have zero need for
Dec. 13, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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RD is one of Boston's weakest position depth wise. Doesn't make much sense to move a young cost controlled shutdown Top 4 d-man.
Dec. 13, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.
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Sure Boston would take your garbage players in exchange of a solid shutdown top 4 dman locked-up for long term at a reasonable cap hit


Did you not see the picks? This is the best trade offer for carlo I’ve seen on this site so far. Not sure the bruins take it, but the offer is fine.
 
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