The thought of trading Terry hurts my soul. I don't even want to consider it, but this is probably reasonably close. Can't see them doing it though.

Spot on

I mean, if someone said Holtz and Nemec, with a bit sprinkled on top, I'd be a bit happier, but we've got plenty of picks, a solid prospect pool, and I just think there comes a time when you keep your good players that you've got control over.

I mean, Nemec is untouchable

Absolutely...as is Terry.

Yeah anything outside of Holtz + Nemec/Hughes + 2023 1st (without conditions) isnt accepted or considered realistically, Outside of Terry randomly requesting a trade he isnt being moved hes our next captain and I'd be shocked if he doesnt sign for at least 6 years this offseason

If you're trying to trade for an "untouchable" superstar you're going to have to give up multiple "Untouchable" prospects/futures

I honestly dont think this is close, no first is an instant deal killer. Stillman and Boqvist dont move the needle. Holtz + Muk is a start, but no where close

Personally, I see Terry not as 'completely' untouchable for the Ducks.
The way I perceive Terry from the Ducks perspective is quite well explained by @HeadHighSauce 's comments in here: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/657475
In short, it'd make sense to me for the Ducks to move (the not untouchable) Terry for a massive futures package given the state of the team.

On the flipside, I don't think Nemec is moveable under any reasonable circumstance (as opposed to Terry).
That's why the package starts with Holtz and Mukhammadulin, both of whom I'd consider 'lower-tier' blue chip prospects.

I admit however that there's a perfectly reasonable counter argument in 'I just think there comes a time when you keep your good players that you've got control over'.

Not to be rude, but that is completely wrong. There isnt really any reason for the Ducks to trade Terry

The Ducks already have a top 5 prospect pool, and a large number of early picks the next 2 drafts

You dont get someone that is untouchable from a team by offering as you put "Lower-tier" anything

Terry would easily get Holtz + Hughes/Nemec +2023 1st, if thats too rich then he stays in ANA

He is our next captain, he is only 25, everyone on here acts like hes 29, he is only just entering his prime and the Ducks still need to sell tickets

Terry is 100% untouchable outside of a trade request. You dont get a proven untouchable without giving up untouchables

1. As I mentioned above, in my view it makes sense for the Ducks to do this.
I think the Ducks are contending starting from the 25/26 season at the earliest, at that point Terry would only have one peak year left at best.
Moving Terry now for my suggested package would of course commit the Ducks to at least one more year of tanking (and that includes drafting one of Bedard or Fantili) but I think that the future pieces added will combined give the Ducks not only a longer competitive window after the tank but also a wider one as the on-ice value of Holtz, Mukhammadulin and the rest of the package will be greater than whatever Terry would provide the Ducks between, say years 2025 - 2031.

2. You do realize that my suggested package is even greater than what Buffalo got for a star center in Eichel? To say nothing of what DeBrincat returned in the summer.
Demanding Luke Hughes + or Nemec + for Terry would put the Ducks ask even north of what the Flames got for Matthew Tkachuk.
At that point I'd rather just trade Holtz + 2nd + Stillman for Timo Meier or just keep the frickin assets.

Not to be rude, but good luck with that.

1. You have no idea how long Terry will keep up his current prodcution, whos to say he isnt a top 6 forward into his late 30's? players dont expire once they turn 30 thats ridiculous. The Ducks are going to get one of the top prospects in this draft with Terry, they dont need to trade him to accomplish that. You even said you offered "lower-tier" The Ducks are not trading Terry for lower-tier, it would take your top 3 futures at least if not more

2. You do realize how those are not relatable at all right? like they are not even remotely comparable situations and its pretty foolish to compare them. Eichel wanted a trade, the Sabres wanted him gone, the locker room wanted him gone, the fans wanted him gone, not to mention his contract also playing a massive factor. The Hawks were also looking to trade DeBrincat so again not at all relatable to this. Same thing goes for Tkachuk the flames were literally forced to move him. And Weegar + Huby are worth more than any variation of prospect and picks we've mentioned. If you think you can get Meier for that go ahead

Terry is untouchable, thats really all that needs to be said here

Dont need any luck, Ducks arent selling Terry for any less

I like Holtz, and Shak, but that last point is my main thought. I completely understand Nemec being a no-go...guy is taking that 3RD spot next year from Sevo, and is going to inevitably bump his way all the way to the top. Moving Terry sets Zegras back as well.

I asked myself…

1. If we had to trade Bratt (say they couldn’t agree on contract), would I accept this return? I would say yes.

2. If this was offered, and we thought we would keep Bratt, would I accept it? Probably not.

As mentioned above, the Ducks already have a deep prospect pool and a plethora of picks in the upcoming draft (which they will likely add to at the TDL). The only scenario in which they may consider trading Terry is if they were able to add another ‘upper-tier’ blue chip to the system. That would mean one of Hughes/Nemec + some other pieces (I don’t think Holtz would have to be included). I understand those two are untouchable in the eyes of NJ fans, but trading Terry for any less simply does not make sense for Anaheim. Not to mention that they already have the left-side locked-up for the foreseeable future with Mintyulov, Zellweger, Thrun, Hinds, etc. so Shakir wouldn’t be of significant interest.