The fact that TO fans want to give up Robertson so bad that he is traded in almost every ACGM is pretty telling of Robertsons lack of quality. He is not good enough to be the centerpiece of any deal acquiring a valuable asset s he himself lacks any concrete value.

Malgin, Hollowell and Kallgren are throw-ins that also lack substantial value. This is a classic quantity for quality trade.

Yeah Robertson's trade value has tanked pretty significantly

Nothing really in for Arizona. But the Leafs shouldn't be adding an expensive winger. Where's the cap next year?

Absolutely not defending the trade...what I will say though, is that in fairness, there used to be a ton of Willy Nylander trades on here, simply because of the weirdly large group of Leafs fans that have an irrational dislike of him. Fortunately, that settled down.

With regards to Robertson being the "big piece" in a lot of these deals though, I'd assume it's simply a case of Leafs fans not wanting to move their top prospect (Knies), and the fact that they continue to be enamored by Niemela's D+1 stats in Liiga last year which, oddly enough, he hasn't come anywhere near replicating.

I don't think that's necessarily true. It's probably right where it was 6 months ago, which is less than a lot of Leafs fans think, and more than a lot of non-Leafs fans think.

He's had a lot of injuries which is discomforting. No doubting his ability and skill. His AHL production is not that of a top prosoect. He is still a *good* prospect but he is not fetching a high value asset any time soon.

I think its just the fact that this team is proven to be good without him and we have Knies and other prospects coming up. I have no problem keeping Robertson, I think he could be a good middle 6 player, its just we wanna have playoff runs now.

I mean, Leafs fans have thrown in Nylander and Marner in trade proposals for years. That doesn't mean the player lacks value, Leafs fans just have no patience.

Lol @ putting Robertson in the same conversation as Marner and Nylander.

Youre whole logic is that a guy has no value cause fans want to dump him lol. I just disproved that so now you wanna rude.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think he was ever fetching high value, but he's a fine piece in a trade (IMO). And, in fairness, his AHL production was just under a point per game between as an 18-20 year old. That being said, he's an undersized player who hasn't managed to stay healthy while playing against pros, and AHL stats mean very little (But you did mention production so I felt like I should point it out).

1st+Robertson brings back a solid player (IMO).

I devalued him mainly due to consistency and injuries. Small guy, can't stay healthy that's a major concern for a lot of GMs. Like I said the talent and ability is there. If he proves he can play a stretch of games in the nhl while staying healthy and being productive he becomes a real trade asset. Until then he doesn't return much and Leafs would be wise to keep him.

That was basically my reasoning. I have nothing against Robertson. I just feel like Crowse would give more of what Toronto needs right now and to get someone like him you have to give up something else good, so instead of Niemela or Knies, I put in Robertson.

Also after having so much pressure to live up to for Robertson (which was all overblown by how young he still is and that he was a 2nd round pick not 1st but now people are comparing him against his brother also which isn't fair either), I feel like him getting a year or two in a market like Arizona where he would be in the full-time lineup and have a lot less eyes on him and less pressure, he could grow a lot more then in Toronto.

I do think he would lose some value now due to having another significant injury. He would likely have to start to prove himself on the NHL level to get his value back/increase it past what it was 6 months ago.

Lawson Crouse isn't anything special though so not sure what the issue here is. He's just a younger Nick Ritchie making x2. I don't think Arizona does this trade since they will want to hold him until his contract seems to be a steal, so they can try getting a boatload for him.

Malgin I'll admit is a throw-in. But I feel like Hollowell could very well be a bottom-paring RD for Arizona or at least their 7th option with injuries. Kallgren is also a serviceable backup to Veji and I feel like would do better than Ingram. If not, all of the Roadrunners goalies are under a 900, he could likely help them there.

I don't disagree on Crouse at all. No reason for Arizona to move him.