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Tampa normally doesnt go for just rentals at tdl

Created by: zibby805
Team: 2022-23 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 19, 2022
Published: Dec. 19, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Barré-Boulet, Alex
  2. Foote, Cal
Additional Details:
Foote needs a change of scenery
Abb needs another nhl chance
2.
ARI
  1. Colton, Ross
  2. Fleury, Haydn
  3. Myers, Philippe
Additional Details:
Colton is a top 6 on another team.. Tampa won’t be able to afford him and he’s a RFA

Fleury has shown value and myers is cap certainty for a team that can’t attract FA’s
3.
TBL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
Additional Details:
Has value but hasn’t fit in
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:38 a.m.
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Quoting: zibby805
That’s what people said when Tampa traded 2 1st, radysh and kuchouk for hagel.

No they didn't. I still think it was an overpay but not as badly as I did then admittedly.if Crouse was making 1.5 like Hagel sure, but he doesn't and they can't afford 4.3 with the three amigos extension kicking in.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:40 a.m.
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Who was the last TDL piece TB brought in costing them over 2 million? McDonagh and Miller before that can't really think of one.
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:43 a.m.
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Who was the last TDL piece TB brought in costing them over 2 million? McDonagh and Miller before that can't really think of one.


Does Callahan count?

I think Tampa has shown they aren’t afraid to find discount players if it means their top 9 is better and their top 4 d is enough.. because in playoffs that’s normally all they use
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.
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Does Callahan count?

I think Tampa has shown they aren’t afraid to find discount players if it means their top 9 is better and their top 4 d is enough.. because in playoffs that’s normally all they use


Not really they had to trade St. Louis actually they regularly role 3 pairings in the playoffs especially in the Bubble Hedman+Shattenkirk/Rutta Mac-Cernak Sergachev -Rutta/Bogosian/Schenn all rolled regularly
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
Not really they had to trade St. Louis


I’m sure I’m wrong about the specific players involved but the idea is normally what jbb does.. but as a Tampa fan who thinks one of the most overrated players in the league is killorn, I’ll just be happy if/when he’s gone.. he should have to pay cirelli 50% of his salary for carrying him all these years.. and now Paul
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:52 a.m.
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I’m sure I’m wrong about the specific players involved but the idea is normally what jbb does.. but as a Tampa fan who thinks one of the most overrated players in the league is killorn, I’ll just be happy if/when he’s gone.. he should have to pay cirelli 50% of his salary for carrying him all these years.. and now Paul


Quoting: zibby805
I’m sure I’m wrong about the specific players involved but the idea is normally what jbb does.. but as a Tampa fan who thinks one of the most overrated players in the league is killorn, I’ll just be happy if/when he’s gone.. he should have to pay cirelli 50% of his salary for carrying him all these years.. and now Paul

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Until that post you were being semi logical this comment just went off into utter Buffonery been great chatting but that is one of the most ASSININE COMMENTS IVE EVER READ ON HERE!!!!!!!
Dec. 20, 2022 at 12:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
Not really they had to trade St. Louis actually they regularly role 3 pairings in the playoffs especially in the Bubble Hedman+Shattenkirk/Rutta Mac-Cernak Sergachev -Rutta/Bogosian/Schenn all rolled regularly


They did not role last year or the year before.. sergy regularly has not had a set partner in playoffs.. which makes his development even more impressive

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Sergy playing with anyone (savard barely saw the ice and bogo and schenn regularly scratch)
Dec. 20, 2022 at 1:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
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Until that post you were being semi logical this comment just went off into utter Buffonery been great chatting but that is one of the most ASSININE COMMENTS IVE EVER READ ON HERE!!!!!!!


Look at his stats away from cirelli through his career and the eye test of how much he hooks and grabs and how often he just falls down with no one around or the fact his skating has to be worse on the team.. maroon is a better skater. clearly a wagoner
Dec. 20, 2022 at 1:07 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 20, 2022 at 1:33 a.m.
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Look at his stats away from cirelli through his career and the eye test of how much he hooks and grabs and how often he just falls down with no one around or the fact his skating has to be worse on the team.. maroon is a better skater. clearly a wagoner


You now have made 2 of the most ASSININE COMMENTS I've read on here . Please you were at least while I disagreed with some saw some thought and logic to the thinking this is just complete utter and total Buffonery. Have a great night my man !!! GO BOLTS ⚡
Dec. 20, 2022 at 2:31 a.m.
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Quoting: zibby805
They did not role last year or the year before.. sergy regularly has not had a set partner in playoffs.. which makes his development even more impressive

Mac-cherny
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Sergy playing with anyone (savard barely saw the ice and bogo and schenn regularly scratch)


That's not true the year before 21 was mostly Hedman Savard/Rutta, Mac Cernak Sergachev Savard/Schenn Foote
Dec. 20, 2022 at 6:09 a.m.
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Interesting.. Foote is young, has been in a winning culture and I’d argue just as good as peeke with a higher ceiling but just been buried

Then a top 9 forward who needs more nhl development because has done everything he can in the ahl


Foote is less than a year younger than Peeke, and with significantly less experience. I get TBL’s D is tougher for a young guy to get a roster spot for, but Foote is old enough that he can’t rely on the young guy/prospect tag anymore and is more a fringe-NHLer/ D depth than he is a middle-pairing guy.

ABB has gone through waivers twice. If CBJ wanted him, they could’ve had him for free.
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Dec. 20, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
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Interesting.. Foote is young, has been in a winning culture and I’d argue just as good as peeke with a higher ceiling but just been buried

Then a top 9 forward who needs more nhl development because has done everything he can in the ahl

Peeke is further along in his development at nearly the same age so we'd easily prefer him - that, and Cal's father kind of screwed us over in the past, so the name Foote is not an appreciated one here.

As for Barre-Boulet, he might be interesting, but frankly when I look at him (and I'll admit I'm going by what scouting and video I can find online) he looks to me like a AAAA player - great in the AHL, but can't seem to translate to the NHL. We've got a guy or two like that already (most notably Fix-Wolansky). If Kekalainen thinks differently, maybe he might be of interest, but I don't see that being the impetus that makes a Peeke trade happen.
 
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