That's a great way to completely ruin RNH's season putting him with Kostin and Janmark.

Guess you didn't watch the game last night where they played together on a third line that had a combined 8 points. I also really like Kostin and Janmarks games. They have been good but unlucky until last night. Especially Janmark

Poolparty is a non-tender candidate, he doesnt move the needle much if at all

A 2nd and a 4th may not even enough to get the Ducks to take Barrie without sending anything back

Klingberg gets a 1st+ on his own

Way off in value for ANA there

Fair points. I think Jesse has more value that you give him credit for. That's where I would start negotiations and if the Ducks asked for a 1st then I'd do it. I also don't think this deal is "far" off in value but I can see where you're coming from. I just think Barrie also still has value other than just being a cap dump. Guy is top 10 in defenceman points and could be flipped to another team for more assets for the ducks too

With all the talk around poolparty being a non-tender candidate, the most I see the Ducks giving up is a 4th. The Oilers couldnt get a second at the draft and his value has surely gone down since then. I'm a fan of JP and have been since before the Oilers drafted him, I would take a flier on him but he doesnt have much current value.

Barrie doesnt have any value to the last place Ducks with 3 regulation wins. He is 100% a cap dump to us, he may have value to a contender but not to us.

"Flipping" assumes too much risk, if Barrie is that easy to trade Edmonton can do it and add his return into this trade.

And even if the Ducks were to take him to flip him he still wouldnt have any positive value in a trade to ANA, so they would still need to be compensated for taking him

If you can flip a player for picks, he clearly has value... anyway, like I said, I don't think it takes much more than I have there to get the deal done. The guy is a pending UFA. Jesse being a non-tender candidate also means very little. I haven't read or seen anyone talk about it being a reason the Oilers havent moved Jesse. He knows hes not worth his tender offer right now and doesn't have a leg to stand on to hold out. Just sign the player before hand. Also, say you put his value at a 2nd or 3rd round pick, add a first instead of a second and a 1st, Jesse (3rd round pick value) and barrie with a 4th is enough to get the deal done in all likelihood.

He's not saying he puts Jesse's value at a 2nd or 3rd, he's saying he puts Jesse at a 4th. It was rumored that Holland was asking for a 2nd for Jesse this offseason (at the draft, specifically), but couldn't get one. As he said, Jesse is an interesting candidate to take a flyer on, if he can be successfully rehabbed he could be a good 2nd line RW for the Ducks, I would wonder how well he would do on a line with McTavish and Bedard (should we get him)

The biggest stumbling block is the extra year of Barrie, and the Ducks really not wanting a player like him. we desperately need to overhaul our defense next season with defensively minded guys, and Barrie occupying a spot that we could put a big beastie is going to hurt our overall defense.

Now, if we keep Helleson in the AHL to start the year, let Barrie teach Drysdale and Zellweger how to score off the faceoff on a PP, and ship Barrie off next TDL with retention, its maybe not the end of the world. Maybe he can get Vaakainen working properly, or maybe we leave him working with Benoit, who seems to have worked well with Klingberg this season. There's a lot of variables, including a new coach to consider.

All that said, bumping the 2nd to the 23 1st probably gets the deal done.

And I'm saying Jesse's value is atleast a 3rd. I think you're on the right track and were on the same page with Barrie. I think he does have value to the Ducks. Even with one more year on his deal the Ducks aren't looking to be Stanley Cup contenders right away next season and they likely lose Klingberg, Kulikov and Shattenkirk. Like you said, Barrie would be a great PP teacher for Zellweger and Drysdale for one year and they can move him. He is an asset and I agree that if there is a 1st in there it likely gets done. I'll change it up.

edmonton is looking for someone like Gavrikov, Soucy, Mattias Ekholm.

Barrie > Klingberg. Edmonton isn't going anywhere near this proposal.

As yes, no Klingberg to EDM with Barrie out thread is complete without @CD282 's hot take that Barrie is the better player.

Pack it in boys, this thread is dead, onto the next one.

If he really was why do so many Edmonton fans dump Barrie in trades for Klingberg? That’s awful nice to give us the better player + 😂

They’ve been just as rumoured in on Klingberg and a righty makes way more sense if the Oilers front office thinks Broberg is a keeper. Why continuously add to the left to hold back the prospects. We have no right shot prospects so go get a high end RHD to play with Nurse and bump down Ceci.