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Created by: karnagex
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 14, 2023
Published: Jan. 14, 2023
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ron hextall is a complete moron. almost every move ended up being sidegrades and in some cases just flat downgrades. insane that he is sitll employed in the NHL in any capacity.
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  1. Smith, Ty
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
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  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. 2023 7th round pick (PIT)
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whatever else they want i know its not balanced
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$76,549,759$0$132,500$5,950,241
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
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UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
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UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
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UFA - 1
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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RFA - 1

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Jan. 14, 2023 at 8:05 a.m.
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Im a bit lost, has Ty Smith not only made you cap compliant but also has been very solid? Sure trading 16th OA for Kapanen was a bad deal but plenty of GM's have made just as bad deals over the time
Jan. 14, 2023 at 8:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im a bit lost, has Ty Smith not only made you cap compliant but also has been very solid? Sure trading 16th OA for Kapanen was a bad deal but plenty of GM's have made just as bad deals over the time


He was in the AHL most of thr time while Marino has been a God send to the Devils....so he's a bit angry following the WPG loss.
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 8:32 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
He was in the AHL most of thr time while Marino has been a God send to the Devils....so he's a bit angry following the WPG loss.


Marino has been good but since being called up Smith has been very good for them. Winnipeg is one of the top teams in the league and Pittsburgh is aging out, seems like an odd thing to be mad about
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
He was in the AHL most of thr time while Marino has been a God send to the Devils....so he's a bit angry following the WPG loss.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Marino has been good but since being called up Smith has been very good for them. Winnipeg is one of the top teams in the league and Pittsburgh is aging out, seems like an odd thing to be mad about


The Pens had their 3rd string goalie in net against the Jets and were without Letang, Petry and Pettersson, Idk how many teams are winning games against a top 10 team without their top 3 dmen and their backups backup in goal.
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
The Pens had their 3rd string goalie in net against the Jets and were without Letang, Petry and Pettersson, Idk how many teams are winning games against a top 10 team without their top 3 dmen and their backups backup in goal.


I'm just trying to imagine why he was so upset to reach back to that trade...
Jan. 14, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Agree completely. Have no clue how Hextall is still employed
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Agree completely. Have no clue how Hextall is still employed


You can hear flyers fans laughing at Pittsburgh
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.
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Hextall has been a good GM so far haha. Only real bad trade he has done is the MCcan trade, and hes had what 1 bad contract extension with Carter?. I really don't get the hate for Hextall. Every single GM ever employed great or not have done bad trades and bad contract extensions. Hextall has done a fine job. Gotta get Healthy, move out a dmen (Ideally Dumo) and add a 3rd line center and we are fine haha
Jan. 14, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: bobbyjoeeeee
Hextall has been a good GM so far haha. Only real bad trade he has done is the MCcan trade, and hes had what 1 bad contract extension with Carter?. I really don't get the hate for Hextall. Every single GM ever employed great or not have done bad trades and bad contract extensions. Hextall has done a fine job. Gotta get Healthy, move out a dmen (Ideally Dumo) and add a 3rd line center and we are fine haha


What has he done that's good? I think its been disaster after disaster from the expansion draft to the Carter/Kapanen signings. He made the team older and slower after last season. Its been one miscalculation after another
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Jan. 14, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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What has he done that's good? I think its been disaster after disaster from the expansion draft to the Carter/Kapanen signings. He made the team older and slower after last season. Its been one miscalculation after another


Yikes, What has he done good, well let me think, Oh the Rakell trade, Signing McGinn, The Jan Rutta signing, The Marino trade is looking like a win -win for both teams, Petry has been solid minus that 7 game stretch earlier when everyone was dog **** oh and add Poehling to that deal who has made himself a nice 4th line roll. The Carter trade was great (The extension wasn't). Kappy has been alright, It's not a great signing but it also isn't a brutal one like many seem to think. Ill give you the expansion draft, that should of been handled a tad differently where we could of simply lost mccan and kept tanev but overall Hextall has done a good job haha. When Healthy we have seen what this team can do, All we need to change when Healthy is Ty Smith in for Dumo and Fix the 3rd line and the team is golden
Jan. 14, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: bobbyjoeeeee
Yikes, What has he done good, well let me think, Oh the Rakell trade, Signing McGinn, The Jan Rutta signing, The Marino trade is looking like a win -win for both teams, Petry has been solid minus that 7 game stretch earlier when everyone was dog **** oh and add Poehling to that deal who has made himself a nice 4th line roll. The Carter trade was great (The extension wasn't). Kappy has been alright, It's not a great signing but it also isn't a brutal one like many seem to think. Ill give you the expansion draft, that should of been handled a tad differently where we could of simply lost mccan and kept tanev but overall Hextall has done a good job haha. When Healthy we have seen what this team can do, All we need to change when Healthy is Ty Smith in for Dumo and Fix the 3rd line and the team is golden


We dont have the cap space for Ty Smith to play or anyone from the AHL for that matter. Nor do we have enough space to fix the third line. Rakell trade was good. Besides that I really dont like anything he's done. McGinn is a worse replacement than Tanev and hasn't produced besides the one streak this year. Rutta signing was just pointless. He hasn't been horrible, but was he really what the tema needed. The goal getting Petrey and Rutta was to make us tougher to play against and that goal hasn't been accomplished at all.
Jan. 16, 2023 at 12:01 a.m.
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Quoting: bobbyjoeeeee
Yikes, What has he done good, well let me think, Oh the Rakell trade, Signing McGinn, The Jan Rutta signing, The Marino trade is looking like a win -win for both teams, Petry has been solid minus that 7 game stretch earlier when everyone was dog **** oh and add Poehling to that deal who has made himself a nice 4th line roll. The Carter trade was great (The extension wasn't). Kappy has been alright, It's not a great signing but it also isn't a brutal one like many seem to think. Ill give you the expansion draft, that should of been handled a tad differently where we could of simply lost mccan and kept tanev but overall Hextall has done a good job haha. When Healthy we have seen what this team can do, All we need to change when Healthy is Ty Smith in for Dumo and Fix the 3rd line and the team is golden


the problem is the moves he made that ended up being good were obvious - and then the obvious moves he should have made (protecting mccann, not resigning carter, not trading marino) he failed to do. he clearly has no real idea on how to value players. he really couldnt see jeff carter being trash at this age? he couldnt see mccann growing with increased time? he didnt watch the entire rangers series where it looked like marino was the best player on the ice?
its just insanely stupid stuff that required no thought - but he overthinks it and look at us now.
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Jan. 16, 2023 at 12:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im a bit lost, has Ty Smith not only made you cap compliant but also has been very solid? Sure trading 16th OA for Kapanen was a bad deal but plenty of GM's have made just as bad deals over the time


yes, cap compliant because we simply HAD to retain the golden god jeff carter for some baffling reason.
keeping jeff carter has cost this team john marino and mccann. just insane player evaluation from a nhl general manager.
Jan. 16, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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yes, cap compliant because we simply HAD to retain the golden god jeff carter for some baffling reason.
keeping jeff carter has cost this team john marino and mccann. just insane player evaluation from a nhl general manager.


Sure but that doesn't mean that the specific trade was bad
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