Trade Hart

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Created by: pj007

Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2023

Published: Jan. 17, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Andrae, Emil	3	$800,000
Gauthier, Cutter	3	$950,000
Behrens, Sean	3	$850,000
Firkus, Jagger	3	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Attard, Ronnie	2	$925,000
Cates, Noah	3	$1,750,000
Fedotov, Ivan	2	$925,000
Frost, Morgan	2	$1,750,000
Högberg, Linus	2	$800,000
Lycksell, Olle	1	$875,000
Wylie, Wyatte	1	$850,000
York, Cam	3	$2,000,000
Zamula, Yegor	2	$850,000
Bernard-Docker, Jacob	3	$950,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Varlamov, Semyon		2	$3,250,000

Trades

PHI

Firkus, Jagger [Reserve List]
2023 1st round pick (SEA)
2024 2nd round pick (SEA)

Additional Details:

2024 2nd becomes a first if Seattle makes it to conference finals and Hart starting more than 50% of games.

SEA

PHI

Behrens, Sean [Reserve List]
2025 3rd round pick (COL)

COL

Hayes, Kevin ($2,200,000 retained)
2023 5th round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

PHI is willing to adjust package and take on contract make a deal work, I.e., Manson.

PHI

Bernard-Docker, Jacob [RFA Rights]
2024 1st round pick (OTT)

OTT

Provorov, Ivan
2023 3rd round pick (NYR)

Buyouts

Oskar Lindblom: $666,667
Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $2,200,000 (61.6%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$82,500,000	$66,611,667	$1,187,500	$495,000	$15,888,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Gauthier, Cutter $950,000$950,000 LW, C RFA - 3	Frost, Morgan $1,750,000$1,750,000 C RFA - 2	Tippett, Owen $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Cates, Noah $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Brink, Bobby $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RW RFA - 1
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Allison, Wade $785,000$785,000 RW RFA - 1
Desnoyers, Elliot $825,000$825,000 ($37,500$38K) C, LW RFA - 2	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2	Firkus, Jagger $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Deangelo, Anthony $1,675,000$1,675,000 RD UFA - 1	Ersson, Samuel $859,167$859,167 ($32,500$32K) G RFA - 1
York, Cam $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 4	Varlamov, Semyon $3,250,000$3,250,000 G UFA - 4
Seeler, Nick $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $950,000$950,000 RD RFA - 2	Sandström, Felix $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 1
Behrens, Sean $850,000$850,000 LD RFA	Attard, Ronnie $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 4

Jan. 17, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

LukaTAG

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Jeez, you are not getting that for Hart.

Jan. 17, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.

oilersguy

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Quoting: LukaTAG

Jeez, you are not getting that for Hart.

r u for real?

Jan. 17, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.

BigBallsBriere

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Quoting: LukaTAG

Jeez, you are not getting that for Hart.

lol. Andrae>Firkus

1st + 2nd isnt enough for a #1 Goalie that is 24 and is argubly top ten in the league

Jan. 17, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

AslanRH

Joined: May 2017

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Definitely not seeing Manson as a "take on contract" type from the Avs.

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Jan. 17, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.

dannibalcorpse

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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR

lol. Andrae>Firkus

1st + 2nd isnt enough for a #1 Goalie that is 24 and is argubly top ten in the league

.907 SV% gets you top 10 status now? Not saying he doesn't have room to grow but pump the brakes a little bit, Seattle shouldn't be giving up that much value for a guy that's a marginal upgrade in goal for them.

Jan. 17, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.

BigBallsBriere

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

Hart started over Jones last year. Grubauer is bad.

His SV% and GAA Is kinda meh because the flyers arent very good. Hart is 9th or 10th For me.

He's Top 10 in Goalie War and he's the only goalie apart of a bad team on that list. And when you have someone that young part of what your paying for is the potential.

Jan. 17, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR

Not saying he's not an upgrade for the Kraken, just that them giving up that many assets for a guy that's middle of the pack right now. He might turn into something better, but giving up that kind of value for a guy that's had half a good season after two years in the wilderness is a big risk.

The other problem from Seattle's end is getting another goalie with term, either at this year's deadline or this summer, gives them 3 goalies under contract next year. Grubauer's contract is going to cost assets to move, and it's likely that Chris Driedger's $3.5M hit is going to be tough to move without much, if any, game tape from this season to show off. So not only are they paying assets to bring in a Carter Hart, they're going to have to pay to move one of those other significant cap hits off their roster (or at least eat the buyout cost.) I don't think Carter Hart is at the level of "make yourself dump other contracts" of talent, but ymmv.

Jan. 17, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.

BigBallsBriere

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

I don't think Seattle is really the right team either. But Speaking on Value side I don't see why he shouldnt be able to get something of that degree. Given his potential and pedigree.

He wont be traded either way, especially becausee of the Hockey Canada Situation

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Jan. 17, 2023 at 10:39 p.m.

TJTwolf

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That's a no from the Avs, they won't be trading Manson or any roster players in this type of move so without more retention it won't work.

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