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Created by: wylewubas
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2023
Published: Jan. 20, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Gudas, Radko ($1,250,000 retained)
FLA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,886,246$212,500$0$613,754
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,425,000$4,425,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 20, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
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Bennetts not going to get traded, Gudas sure, not Bennett
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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That ain’t happening for that package. Robertson and kerfoot are useless to the panthers.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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We all saw how effect Gudas is the other night. The only highlight he was a part of was when he lost his **** and got a penalty. He's not a good defenceman
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
We all saw how effect Gudas is the other night. The only highlight he was a part of was when he lost his **** and got a penalty. He's not a good defenceman


leafs apparently are looking to add a muzzin type of defensemen him and schenn are the only 2 i could think of that are affordable
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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leafs apparently are looking to add a muzzin type of defensemen him and schenn are the only 2 i could think of that are affordable


The thing about a Muzzin type defenceman is Muzzin was actually good both ways and also was physical. Schenn and Gudas are both physical but suck at everything else in hockey. Neither are good skaters, both have no offence to add and both of them, despite a cap friendly reputation to the contrary, aren't overly good at defending.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.
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Quoting: wylewubas
leafs apparently are looking to add a muzzin type of defensemen him and schenn are the only 2 i could think of that are affordable


I was just going to post the comparison between those 2 players...

Schenn plays with intelligence typically within his limitations and rarely hurts his team with his actions where Gudas usually plays in a way that hurts his team but sometimes works.

I was going to suggest that Schenn would be a better player for that style of play and the Leafs style of play
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
The thing about a Muzzin type defenceman is Muzzin was actually good both ways and also was physical. Schenn and Gudas are both physical but suck at everything else in hockey. Neither are good skaters, both have no offence to add and both of them, despite a cap friendly reputation to the contrary, aren't overly good at defending.


im just not sure who else their would be available that the leafs could target
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
The thing about a Muzzin type defenceman is Muzzin was actually good both ways and also was physical. Schenn and Gudas are both physical but suck at everything else in hockey. Neither are good skaters, both have no offence to add and both of them, despite a cap friendly reputation to the contrary, aren't overly good at defending.


The defense is the toughest position to correct in my opinion.

Muzzin is a physical 6'3" 217 lbs LHD that averaged approximately 2 hits a game and had an offensive upside of approximately 0.5 ppg. He was just about to turn 30 when the Leafs acquired him and his 5.8% Cap hit at the time would be equivalent to approximately $4.9 MIL with an additional year left. Not sure who replaces him in the league currently (LHD or RHD) . There is certainly no Leaf that can replace that role. I feel we need to find some way to replace Muzzin but....what current dman in the league born around 1992 that is 6'3"+ 217+ lbs who plays physical and scores at a 0,5 ppg pace while being signed for around $5.0 MIL this year and next?

And who do we move to get that fiction dman?
- Rielly has struggled on and off for a few years (not sure what the advanced stats say) but now has a NMC for 8 years at $7.5 MIL. He's not going anywhere.
- Giordano took a MASSIVE pay cut to play in TO and has been playing great. He's not going anywhere.
- Brodie is owed $7.5 MIL in real money next season and has an NTC. He's not going anywhere.
- Benn is a 6'2" LD that can play both sides on a league minimum contract. He's not going anywhere.
- Dubas just acquired 6'2" RD Timmins who is still under team control as an RFA. He's not going anywhere.
- Sandin and Liljegren are young with decent talent. They might be traded but being the youngest players in the top 6 by a country mile. I think they're not going anywhere.

That leaves UFA Holl on a rental contract to move but he might not get back his current value to the Leafs so I am not sure if he should be moved or not.
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: wylewubas
im just not sure who else their would be available that the leafs could target


They don't need defenceman and if they did add Schenn, a 4th is beyond enough. Gudas just straight up sucks
Jan. 20, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Britishbulldog
The defense is the toughest position to correct in my opinion.

Muzzin is a physical 6'3" 217 lbs LHD that averaged approximately 2 hits a game and had an offensive upside of approximately 0.5 ppg. He was just about to turn 30 when the Leafs acquired him and his 5.8% Cap hit at the time would be equivalent to approximately $4.9 MIL with an additional year left. Not sure who replaces him in the league currently (LHD or RHD) . There is certainly no Leaf that can replace that role. I feel we need to find some way to replace Muzzin but....what current dman in the league born around 1992 that is 6'3"+ 217+ lbs who plays physical and scores at a 0,5 ppg pace while being signed for around $5.0 MIL this year and next?

And who do we move to get that fiction dman?
- Rielly has struggled on and off for a few years (not sure what the advanced stats say) but now has a NMC for 8 years at $7.5 MIL. He's not going anywhere.
- Giordano took a MASSIVE pay cut to play in TO and has been playing great. He's not going anywhere.
- Brodie is owed $7.5 MIL in real money next season and has an NTC. He's not going anywhere.
- Benn is a 6'2" LD that can play both sides on a league minimum contract. He's not going anywhere.
- Dubas just acquired 6'2" RD Timmins who is still under team control as an RFA. He's not going anywhere.
- Sandin and Liljegren are young with decent talent. They might be traded but being the youngest players in the top 6 by a country mile. I think they're not going anywhere.

That leaves UFA Holl on a rental contract to move but he might not get back his current value to the Leafs so I am not sure if he should be moved or not.


You nailed it, WE DON'T NEED DEFENCEMAN!
Jan. 20, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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Seems God awful for Florida
Jan. 20, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
You nailed it, WE DON'T NEED DEFENCEMAN!


Take a good look at the 8 defensemen in the ACGM, substituting Timmins in for Gudas. Technically the Leaf's have ENOUGH defensemen. What they need is an UPGRADE on defense. Dubas should be swinging for the fences. His job will probably depend on it. Gudas is the Czech equivalent of the Russian Bear. That won't cut it.
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Take a good look at the 8 defensemen in the ACGM, substituting Timmins in for Gudas. Technically the Leaf's have ENOUGH defensemen. What they need is an UPGRADE on defense. Dubas should be swinging for the fences. His job will probably depend on it. Gudas is the Czech equivalent of the Russian Bear. That won't cut it.


Gudas is a good who can't skate or defend.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Take a good look at the 8 defensemen in the ACGM, substituting Timmins in for Gudas. Technically the Leaf's have ENOUGH defensemen. What they need is an UPGRADE on defense. Dubas should be swinging for the fences. His job will probably depend on it. Gudas is the Czech equivalent of the Russian Bear. That won't cut it.


realistically they need a top 4 RHD to play with rielly and they have for years
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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realistically they need a top 4 RHD to play with rielly and they have for years


I think the closest comparison in the league is Oleksiak. .25 ppg compared to Muzzins almost ,5 ppg but throws 50% more hits and is 6'7" 255 lbs compared to Muzzin's 6'3" 217 lbs.

Oleksiak is 30 years old and takes 4.6% of the cap compared to Muzzin's 4.9% when he was traded for. The question is would you offer Seattle the same package offered LA for Muzzin?
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
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I bet Florida takes this and runs, Bennett is more of a 3rd line C who is successful with elite players (Huberdeau last year, Tkachuk this year). That's a solid return for them.
 
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