Montreal says no thanks to a 1st for Anderson though?

I would have to see it to believe it. I know that there were rumours... but I doubt Habs turned down a First for Anderson. My guess is that they're looking for 2 pieces to come back. Of course, if the pick is a late first, then the prospect could be a bit less important. So 2nd Round + B prospect or Late First + B- prospect...

Congratulations. The most realistic analysis of Montreal trade values I've seen, either individually or collectively. Congratulations (again).

I disagree on so many players
Hoffman Drouin Dadonov & Armia should be in negative value without salary retention
Hoffman Drouin & Dadonov could be worth a 4th or less if MTL retained half their salary
The value for Monahan is fine for him half retained, full cap he isn't worth a 2nd + B prospect

Dvorak & Edmundson are probably spot on

If the rumors are true, that's too low of a return for Anderson

It has been all over the news lately and unless the GM of either team comes out and says the Habs turned down a 1st we can only assume the reports are true since the insiders usually have good information. Now the caveat is that maybe the 1st had conditions Hughes didn't like or was too far in the future to be worth it.

I found the second and third sentences of his Team Description contradictory, so I went with the third sentence; I assumed that he didn't want to put in retention figures for everybody because then some pedant would pipe up that "you can only retain on three players at a time, dolt."

Seeing as how every single rumor about Bo Horvat's ultimate destination was wrong, to pick just one case as an example, I don't put much stock in any "report" separated by more than an hour from the event's actual materialization. So I'm quite skeptical of the parlay that (1) someone offered Hughes a first for Anderson, and (2) he turned it down.

The only one that could maybe fetch a 1st is Edmundson, Monahan injuries made it so he gets a 2nd, why Edmundson can get a 1st is if habs get a bad contract back and retain 50% for 2years, could throw one of the prospects in need of a change of scenery, Norlinder, Ylonen or Kapanen.

Norlinder & Ylönen could be in that category but Kapanen isn't, he's worth more than the 2 you mentionned

Kapanen could be our 4c or maybe the 3rw next to Beck and Heineman, if everything goes right lmao
Yes Kapanen has more value im not denying that

For now best scenario is
Suzuki
Dach
Beck
Kapanen
At least our 3C-4C can win faceoffs lol
But depending who we draft this year, Dach could be moved on the wing full time

Thanks! I remember doing it last year and people liked it as well... I'm an old guy who loves hockey and Habs are my favourite team. I try to remain objective... I know people won't agree with my take on guys like Armia and Drouin or whatever...

Fact is, IF Drouin had remained healthy this year, on a contract year and the way he started the season, I think the return could've been way better. He still has upside and could prove to be usefull in a low-pressure, middle-6 situation. Armia, if he was on an expiring deal, could attract some old-school GM who likes the eye test more than analytics. But with that contract, Habs would be lucky to trade him for a 4th, probably with salary coming back...

Anyway, always fun to give my POV and witness the chaos in the feedback... lol

We all heard tu rumours. And you make a valid point about the conditions attached to the First pick. In my mind, there's NO WAY Habs turned down a solid, unprotected 2023 1st Round pick for Anderson at 0% retention... That being said, There's no way Habs would say yes to Anderson at 50% retention for a late first.

All in all, I still believe the best deal would be Anderson at 0% retention for a 2nd rounder and a B-prospect. Bonus points if that prospect is a right shot D-man.

I really hope for a top 4 pick, bottom 2 are uncatchable rn but Ducks and Yotes are with their strength of schedule being one of the easiests.
I want fantilli if we win lotto for 2nd spot though.

Same, Bedard Fantilli Carlsson would be great in that order