Leafs Get Past Round 1

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$73,771,246	$212,500	$0	$8,728,754

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 3
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630$840,630 LW, RW UFA - 1	O'Reilly, Ryan -$1,875,000-$1,875,000 C UFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1
		Anderson, Joey $750,000$750,000 RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1
	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1
Benn, Jordie $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

#1

Joronto

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VAN looking for 3rd+ for SCHENN due to Pagnotta.

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Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.

#2

A_K

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Feels like the ROR trades on here have become either extreme overpays or extreme underpays. I think the market value will be to start with a '23 1st and add a decent prospect that has some runway. For the Leafs maybe it's 1st + Voit? Maybe Moldenhauer? It won't look too impressive for the Blues IMO but if they can't hold out for a '23 1st then they may not trade him at all.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.

#3

MadLin27

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Quoting: A_K

Feels like the ROR trades on here have become either extreme overpays or extreme underpays. I think the market value will be to start with a '23 1st and add a decent prospect that has some runway. For the Leafs maybe it's 1st + Voit? Maybe Moldenhauer? It won't look too impressive for the Blues IMO but if they can't hold out for a '23 1st then they may not trade him at all.

I hope you consider this an extreme overpay.
There is no way Sandin is moving for a rental.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.

#4

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: A_K

Feels like the ROR trades on here have become either extreme overpays or extreme underpays. I think the market value will be to start with a '23 1st and add a decent prospect that has some runway. For the Leafs maybe it's 1st + Voit? Maybe Moldenhauer? It won't look too impressive for the Blues IMO but if they can't hold out for a '23 1st then they may not trade him at all.

Just can’t see it being that high. He just hasn’t played well this year. I think slightly more value than toews, which has been reported to be in the 2nd or 3rd round pick range. 2nd rounder and a B prospect for ROR seems right to me.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

#5

Boldirev

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Quoting: Joronto

VAN looking for 3rd+ for SCHENN due to Pagnotta.

Yes. An expiring 3.5 M contract is not a plus for Vancouver. So a third for Schenn and then at least a second to take on Kerfoot. Canucks are not trading a 4th to take on another useless contract unless something they really want/need is coming back.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.

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A_K

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Quoting: MadLin27

I hope you consider this an extreme overpay.
There is no way Sandin is moving for a rental.

Correct, sorry for not clarifying.

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Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.

#7

A_K

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Just can’t see it being that high. He just hasn’t played well this year. I think slightly more value than toews, which has been reported to be in the 2nd or 3rd round pick range. 2nd rounder and a B prospect for ROR seems right to me.

Even if he's not the Selke/Conn Smythe guy, he's a defensive-minded centerman that can play vs top competition, win draws, play both special teams, etc.There is someone out there who will give up a first round pick to get him. Not really concerned about his stats playing on this dumpster fire of a Blues team. Plus GMs have longer memory, in some cases too long. I don't think expecting the 1st rounder is that crazy. Before the season it would've been an insane price. Surely it has come down but I believe there is
a threshold where it no longer makes sense for the Blues to move him, and I think that value on the scale is right at the 1st rd pick.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.

#8

jaok3

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Simmonds, Anderson and ZAR aren't NHL players, the bottom 6 would be destroyed by TB.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.

#9

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: Boldirev

Yes. An expiring 3.5 M contract is not a plus for Vancouver. So a third for Schenn and then at least a second to take on Kerfoot. Canucks are not trading a 4th to take on another useless contract unless something they really want/need is coming back.

It's not a 2nd to move on from Kerfoot. It's probably Kerfoot for like a 5th or 6th round pick at minimum and Schenn will prob. get a 3rd or 4rth

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Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.

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MadLin27

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Quoting: Boldirev

Yes. An expiring 3.5 M contract is not a plus for Vancouver. So a third for Schenn and then at least a second to take on Kerfoot. Canucks are not trading a 4th to take on another useless contract unless something they really want/need is coming back.

Kerf is only owed like 200k in actual dollars at this point... 750k base salary this year.
Taking on Kerf is a complete nothing burger

Feb. 13, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.

#11

Boldirev

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Quoting: MadLin27

Kerf is only owed like 200k in actual dollars at this point... 750k base salary this year.
Taking on Kerf is a complete nothing burger

It's not the dollars at this point, but the cap hit. The Canucks want to get out of LTIR, so if they take on Kerfoot it will have to be worthwhile. Either way, the Canucks aren't giving up assets for Kerfoot.....

Feb. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.

#12

Boldirev

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

It's not a 2nd to move on from Kerfoot. It's probably Kerfoot for like a 5th or 6th round pick at minimum and Schenn will prob. get a 3rd or 4rth

Maybe, in any case it's a LOONG way from Schenn AND a 4th for Kerfoot.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.

#13

noted

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Quoting: MadLin27

Kerf is only owed like 200k in actual dollars at this point... 750k base salary this year.
Taking on Kerf is a complete nothing burger

Quoting: Boldirev

It's not the dollars at this point, but the cap hit. The Canucks want to get out of LTIR, so if they take on Kerfoot it will have to be worthwhile. Either way, the Canucks aren't giving up assets for Kerfoot.....

The Canucks can get actual long term assets for Luke Schenn. Kerfoot is not an asset…

Feb. 13, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.

#14

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: A_K

Even if he's not the Selke/Conn Smythe guy, he's a defensive-minded centerman that can play vs top competition, win draws, play both special teams, etc.There is someone out there who will give up a first round pick to get him. Not really concerned about his stats playing on this dumpster fire of a Blues team. Plus GMs have longer memory, in some cases too long. I don't think expecting the 1st rounder is that crazy. Before the season it would've been an insane price. Surely it has come down but I believe there is
a threshold where it no longer makes sense for the Blues to move him, and I think that value on the scale is right at the 1st rd pick.

Maybe a protected 2024 pick.

Feb. 13, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.

#15

MadLin27

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Quoting: noted

The Canucks can get actual long term assets for Luke Schenn. Kerfoot is not an asset…

Sorry I read the trade wrong.
I thought Leafs were sending a pick.
Yeah this makes no sense haha

Feb. 13, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.

#16

MadLin27

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Quoting: Boldirev

It's not the dollars at this point, but the cap hit. The Canucks want to get out of LTIR, so if they take on Kerfoot it will have to be worthwhile. Either way, the Canucks aren't giving up assets for Kerfoot.....

I read the trade wrong. Thought Leafs were sending a pick

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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2025

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2	Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
		Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 2
		Mete, Victor $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

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