This is moving deck chairs around. A waste of assets for no gains.

That’s a lot to ask of the Canucks to retain that much for that long. You’re right that Niemola would be involved in that kind of deal, and a one for one swap could work without retention . I don’t see that Leafs taking garland at full cap. Just not sure there’s a fit here.

provides playoff insurance. We're already so invested. Garland is an upgrade on Kerfoot taking center option aside, which now doesn't really matter for us given, well the best 1 through 6 center options in the league imo (AM - JT - ROR - Kampf - Acciari - Holmberg all viable options up the middle). Think his game would complement Matthews well. Then Dumo provides that vet shutdown D presence playing with Brodie to try and replace the Muzzin effect at an affordable asset cost. Lastly I really hope we get some goalie insurance given Murray's injury history and Sammy's unproven-ness (I believe in him, but I don't want to have no NHLers to turn to if things went wrong or if he got hurt too over a long playoff run).

Maybe a bit of deck chair shuffling, but adds some insurance and only moves out Kerfoot in terms of NHLers. Robertson I think is going to get his shot elsewhere at this point, and I don't love losing Niemela but gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.

yea. fair. I suppose it comes down to how much the Nucks value Niemela and how much they think they need that 1.495M over the next two seasons. But I do think this is close enough to be plausible. Especially if you guys could flip Kerfoot for something decent by retaining which I'm fairly certain you could, he's a great swiss army knife for any contender and teams would jump all over him especially at 1.75M.

Pens absolutely should accept this

what's the deal with Dumo? Why? He used to be absolutely elite as a shutdown D. I know he's had an off year but that bad? Could the Leafs even squeeze a pick out of PIT doing a deal like this?

Garland is massively overrated. He's Kerfoot but better offensively and worse defensively. Engvall frustrates many but he's also extremely effective at keeping the puck out of his net. He'll be a great winger for ROR as he is very good at taking the puck up ice with control. Unless you are getting Meier, there is no one else that helps this team improve. The defenceman available are all not very good. There just isn't a Muzzin replacement. People point to McCabe but Sandin is more physical. It's just all make moves to make moves. Less is more sometimes and unless we can add a defenceman who actually fills that shutdown role without taking away from what we have, there is no point in making a move. Unless it's for Meier

I think if Dumo is cheap and can return to form given his kinda disappointing season he could absolutely be a shutdown D that could mimic some of what Muzzin brings. He was probably one the most comparable D to Muzzin's impact over the past several years actually. And I personally think Robertson needs a fresh start anyways. Garland - I think I'm one of few who really like Kerfoot for this team. I also think what he brings as a swiss army knife and defensive player is a tad diminished by last nights acquisitions. Kerfoot is a versatile, pass-always, defensive player and I think him and Garland are actually a fair bit different stylistically. Garland is more battle, get to the net, dig pucks, create some net front havoc than he is a defensive player. I think that style complements Matthews better. That said, if we plugged Kerfoot in for him in this lineup I'd still be stoked, just think if we can make even marginal upgrades, this team is worth investing more in.

If nothing more comes (provided we get a depth goalie I think we have to) I will still be excited. But I do think there is a legitimate argument for looking into some more pieces at a reasonable cost.

also to the mccabe point I think sandin at worst throws as many hits but maybe struggles with net-front and cycle-stopping positioning battles against bigger guys though. He's an incredible player, competitor, and good stick positioning which helps a ton but that's more the deficiency I look at right now in his game for which I might look to insurance options as that becomes a huge factor in playoffs (he's still young and will continue to grow into it but still)

Just has had some pretty bad leg/ankle injuries past two seasons. He's been better recently. Feel bad for him as although he hasn't been good, he's been taking all the heat when our whole defense is bad. Maybe he just needs a fresh start on a new team. I'll add too he's a really good guy and I'm sure would help locker room. So wouldn't be bad to give it a shot at half price

thats what im thinking. Play him with a strong two way guy like Liljegren or Brodie on a team that gets a ton of D help from the forwards and just let him focus on playing his game rather than covering for an offensive style D like Letang or Rielly. And worst case Robertson gets a fresh start and Sandin who has been good comes back into the lineup.

Garland is all about transition. He's similar to Kapanen. Blow the zone look for rush chances but often leave yourself exposed. A Canucks fan sent a clip showing all his goals to prove he's a go to the dirty areas type player but over half his goals come off rushes

That won't work. He works with an elite D now in Letang. The ankle injuries have killed his first couple of steps, so he is late to ever play when he is flat footed. He actually is pretty decent when in motion in the O zone and even in transition, but he gets burned down low because of his lack of burst when standing still.

As described, that might work for the Jackets. Although we may try to get a 3rd.

letang is similar to Rielly in terms of offensive first defenceman though (not trying to start a Rielly vs Letang argument just stylistically). If you put him with a strong skating more defensive focused D like Liljegren or Brodie I think it would help. But who knows