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Sneaky deadline

Created by: GetTuched
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2023
Published: Feb. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
3 way trade

Rangers receive
- Kane (75% retained)
- Bishop (LTIR)

Blackhawks receive
- 2023 1st (DAL)
- Kravtsov
- Hajek
- Portillo
- Bjork

Sabres receive
- 2023 3rd (DAL)
- 2023 3rd (COL)
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
CHI
2.
BUF
  1. Hájek, Libor
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DAL)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
NYR
  1. Bishop, Ben
  2. Kane, Patrick ($2,625,000 retained)
3.
BUF
CHI
  1. Hájek, Libor
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DAL)
4.
PHI
  1. Bryson, Jacob
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$63,729,167$0$3,537,500$18,770,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$687,500$687,500
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Feb. 23, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Sure
Feb. 23, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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Seeler would've been a good add 3 weeks ago
Feb. 23, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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Why does NYR want Bishop?
And why do we need to get rid of him?


Do people here STILL not understand how LTIR works??
Feb. 23, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.
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Don't see the Hawks spending a 3rd for Bjork and Portillo. Neither player fills a need.
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Why does NYR want Bishop?
And why do we need to get rid of him?


Do people here STILL not understand how LTIR works??


how does it work

Quoting: Buffalove
Why does NYR want Bishop?
And why do we need to get rid of him?


Do people here STILL not understand how LTIR works??
Feb. 23, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: ecui2711
how does it work


Ppl seem to think that putting a player on LTIR gets you extra Cap Space
And it does NOT

Let’s say NYR has Zero Cap Space, and they acquire Bishop
This is a problem bc their Cap goes up almost $5mil- now putting them OVER THE CAP
In that case, they can put Bishop’s Cap Hit on LTIR, so that they’re no longer over the CaAll it does, is acts as if Bishop’s Cap Hit never existed

Once again, it absolutely DOES NOT create an additional $5mil in Cap space
So in this instance,
acquiring Bishop does not benefit the Rangers in ANY AY whatsoever


IT’S BEEN YEARS NOW
There’s no excuse not to know this rule by now
And this Website makes it EXTREMELY EASY to figure out ffs
Feb. 23, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Ppl seem to think that putting a player on LTIR gets you extra Cap Space
And it does NOT

Let’s say NYR has Zero Cap Space, and they acquire Bishop
This is a problem bc their Cap goes up almost $5mil- now putting them OVER THE CAP
In that case, they can put Bishop’s Cap Hit on LTIR, so that they’re no longer over the CaAll it does, is acts as if Bishop’s Cap Hit never existed

Once again, it absolutely DOES NOT create an additional $5mil in Cap space
So in this instance,
acquiring Bishop does not benefit the Rangers in ANY AY whatsoever


IT’S BEEN YEARS NOW
There’s no excuse not to know this rule by now
And this Website makes it EXTREMELY EASY to figure out ffs


Take it easy man. Care to explain why Vegas has 8+ mil in cap space right now?
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: GetTuched
Take it easy man. Care to explain why Vegas has 8+ mil in cap space right now?


Bc they have Stone & Lehner on LTIR
Putting 14.5mil on LTIR didn’t open up $28mil in Cap space
It simply gives them the option to be able to add $8mil in Cap bc with them on LTIR their Cap is down to around $73mil
VGK is already using some of the $14.5mil in relief from taking them off the active roster & putting them on LTIR

If we were to send them Bishop, it doesn’t give them an additional $5mil in Cap space

Don’t believe me….
Make a VGK acgm for this year & do NOTHING to it
You’ll see they have just under $9mil in available Cap Space

Now trade Bishop to them for nothing
Now they have just under $4mil in Cap space
Move him to LTIR and they are right back to having the EXACT SAME Cap Space they had before they acquired him


Again, this isn’t that difficult, just a bit complicated to figure out the fine points
But the bottom line is that adding Bishop doesn’t create more Cap Space for a team

Take 5min to learn a bit more about how LTIR works bud
That’s the best explanation i can give ya
Feb. 23, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Bc they have Stone & Lehner on LTIR
Putting 14.5mil on LTIR didn’t open up $28mil in Cap space
It simply gives them the option to be able to add $8mil in Cap bc with them on LTIR their Cap is down to around $73mil
VGK is already using some of the $14.5mil in relief from taking them off the active roster & putting them on LTIR

If we were to send them Bishop, it doesn’t give them an additional $5mil in Cap space

Don’t believe me….
Make a VGK acgm for this year & do NOTHING to it
You’ll see they have just under $9mil in available Cap Space

Now trade Bishop to them for nothing
Now they have just under $4mil in Cap space
Move him to LTIR and they are right back to having the EXACT SAME Cap Space they had before they acquired him


Again, this isn’t that difficult, just a bit complicated to figure out the fine points
But the bottom line is that adding Bishop doesn’t create more Cap Space for a team

Take 5min to learn a bit more about how LTIR works bud
That’s the best explanation i can give ya


Why are you so angry?
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: GetTuched
Why are you so angry?


I’m not
Why don’t you know how LTIR works when you’ve been posting on this site for 6ish years???

U shouldn’t need it STILL explained to you at this point bud
But i did it anyways
And not in an “angry” way
Maybe a slightly annoyed way- at worst
But like i said,
people should have a grasp of how LTIR works by now

Having to explain it over, & over, & over, & over, etc etc etc
It gets tiring dude
 
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