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Dumba founded

Created by: MaxBorjshlapsky
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2023
Published: Feb. 24, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (MIN)
3.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,845,413$212,500$0$654,587
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$834,167$834,167
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 24, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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So essentially you're trading an IR prospect, and two firsts for Dumba + a third.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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Dumba founded indeed, Vancouver takes that!
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
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Brock Boeser at full value, Isn't worth anywhere close to that value that the Leafs are giving up.

Once again Boeser and Holl, Aren't worth Dumba and 2 3rd round picks. At full value Vancouver would be lucky to get more than a 4th round pick for him. Probably 95% of the league can't even afford his 2 x $6,650,000 caphit.

And sorry no freaking way does Engval return a 2nd round pick.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Brock Boeser at full value, Isn't worth anywhere close to that value that the Leafs are giving up.

Once again Boeser and Holl, Aren't worth Dumba and 2 3rd round picks. At full value Vancouver would be lucky to get more than a 4th round pick for him. Probably 95% of the league can't even afford his 2 x $6,650,000 caphit.

And sorry no freaking way does Engval return a 2nd round pick.


I think if Van retains 50% on BB this would a go
Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
I think if Van retains 50% on BB this would a go


That is hopelessly optimistic
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
That is hopelessly optimistic


No it's not lmao.

Tell me where the heck you're going to find a 60-point winger @ 3.3M for 2 more seasons? You have to luck into one from the draft or a very rare signing from Europe.

Boeser has more points and a better P/PG than Toffoli did at the same point in time last season (plus over the last four seasons) and Toffoli 0% retained @ 4.25M went for a 1st, a recent 2nd round pick doing above average, a 5th rounder and a depth forward last year.

Boeser 50% retained @3.3M would easily fetch two 1sts + a decent prospect.
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Feb. 25, 2023 at 7:52 a.m.
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No it's not lmao.

Tell me where the heck you're going to find a 60-point winger 3.3M for 2 more seasons? You have to luck into one from the draft or a very rare signing from Europe.

Boeser has more points and a better P/PG than Toffoli did at the same point in time last season (plus over the last four seasons) and Toffoli 0% retained 4.25M went for a 1st, a recent 2nd round pick doing above average, a 5th rounder and a depth forward last year.

Boeser 50% retained 3.3M would easily fetch two 1sts + a decent prospect.


Boeser is a 60 point winger when he gets prime offensive opportunities but at 5v5 he's too poor a skater to be effective without major beneficial usage
Feb. 25, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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I think Boeser for Dumba is pretty genius trade it wasn't my idea but Vancouver has no need for Dumba being a rental and Toronto doesn't own boeser, Minnesota wants also needs an elite forward, boeser has proven he can be that whatever recent stats or blips in his career might say he's still young, also he is from Minnesota I believe and then sending off Holl to input a decent defensemen (also from Minnesota) while sending out Dumba now that's my idea....overall Minnesota fills their need and Toronto fills theirs but Vancouver also recieved 2 first round picks and a still very highly touted prospect that's shown glimpses of very high abilities in the NHL.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Boeser is a 60 point winger when he gets prime offensive opportunities but at 5v5 he's too poor a skater to be effective without major beneficial usage


He's not getting prime opportunity, he's not been on Petterssons line the entire season. He's only recently had time on PP1 with Horvat gone. He'd have more points if he was on the top line and PP1.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 5:58 p.m.
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He's not getting prime opportunity, he's not been on Petterssons line the entire season. He's only recently had time on PP1 with Horvat gone. He'd have more points if he was on the top line and PP1.


He's also horrible defensively. Boeser is going to cost you to move at full contract or will require retention for you to get anything for him. The price above is stunningly ridiculous
Feb. 25, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
He's also horrible defensively. Boeser is going to cost you to move at full contract or will require retention for you to get anything for him. The price above is stunningly ridiculous


Boeser is very one dimensional from what I seen but he has the ability to score more goals than anybody not named Kaprizov on Minnesota plus he does seem like a big body, power forward shooter type.

2 first and Robertson isn't enough for boeser? Lol or it's too much I'm confused but anyways, maybe Boeser is the "big name" to come on deadline day
Feb. 25, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
Boeser is very one dimensional from what I seen but he has the ability to score more goals than anybody not named Kaprizov on Minnesota plus he does seem like a big body, power forward shooter type.

2 first and Robertson isn't enough for boeser? Lol or it's too much I'm confused but anyways, maybe Boeser is the "big name" to come on deadline day


Way too much. Boeser won't get a 1st at his full contract. He's a one dimensional perimeter scorer.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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Way too much. Boeser won't get a 1st at his full contract. He's a one dimensional perimeter scorer.


I do think 2 first is too much I messed that up especially since Horvat returned 1 first but I definitely think Boeser deserves 1 first plus a player.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 25, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.
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Way too much. Boeser won't get a 1st at his full contract. He's a one dimensional perimeter scorer.


Hence why I said Boeser at 3.3M is worth two 1sts and a prospect, per current market conditions, because he has term beyond just this season unlike Horvat, Kane, Meier, O'Rielly, and Tarasenko. They've all gone for 1sts w/retention for what amounts to 20-40 games unless they re-sign. Boeser you're getting at least 200 with.

Also, he's not a perimeter scorer. He's a potent offensive threat. His powerplay minutes are half of what they've been in previous seasons, he's scoring at a 45-point pace at 5v5 alone, that's better than Meier, Kane, Tarasenko and O'Rielly this season. Give him PP1 time and he'd certainly be a 70/80 point winger.
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Feb. 26, 2023 at 12:36 a.m.
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
I do think 2 first is too much I messed that up especially since Horvat returned 1 first but I definitely think Boeser deserves 1 first plus a player.


You are very very wrong. Top insiders are saying they have to retain or it costs then to move that contract. He isn't worth what he makes
Feb. 26, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
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Hence why I said Boeser at 3.3M is worth two 1sts and a prospect, per current market conditions, because he has term beyond just this season unlike Horvat, Kane, Meier, O'Rielly, and Tarasenko. They've all gone for 1sts w/retention for what amounts to 20-40 games unless they re-sign. Boeser you're getting at least 200 with.

Also, he's not a perimeter scorer. He's a potent offensive threat. His powerplay minutes are half of what they've been in previous seasons, he's scoring at a 45-point pace at 5v5 alone, that's better than Meier, Kane, Tarasenko and O'Rielly this season. Give him PP1 time and he'd certainly be a 70/80 point winger.


He isn't worth 2 1st at any cap hit. He's a flawed player. Hurts you as much as he helps you, often more.
Feb. 26, 2023 at 2:41 a.m.
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He isn't worth 2 1st at any cap hit. He's a flawed player. Hurts you as much as he helps you, often more.


Except Boeser provides better offense than the offensive players who have already been traded with larger cap hits than him. But sure, believe what you want.
Feb. 26, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.
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Except Boeser provides better offense than the offensive players who have already been traded with larger cap hits than him. But sure, believe what you want.


Boeser is empty calories. He gets as many goals against as he provides and is terrible defensively
 
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