No thanks

I don't hate the pieces but no reason for Detroit to part with a 1st to go get those guys. I could see Dvorak as a guy they could be interested in but not a 1st.

Harris would be your best LHD as much as Maatta as been better this season. Habs have a ton of left LHD much like Romanov, Harris can be dangled with cheap AAV along with term. Harris would be the type of piece that you' d think would interest Stevie. Hughes has his heart set on another 1st this season and i dont think he trades Harris or Dvorak without a 1st.

I agree
Especially since Harris's family is close friends with both our GM and Coach.
They've both coached him and when Harris joined NCAA he was Captain of both their Sons.
Strong Connection to this management core and just absolutely 0% chance he's moved.

I mean i'd move him with Hutson coming up
But more likely they make Xhekaj or Ghule play RD.


Just not a good fit

This coaching staff seems to be a lot better than expected. Winning far too much lately. I wouldnt mind a shakeup with St Louis. Now he has players not even looking at the ipads on the bench during the play. Hughes needs to step in. Setting a culture when most of these players are gone in 3 years is kinda pointless.

Canes pass

I agree with his move , as he said it selfish to do during the game
You're ignoring the team element to do something more appropriate when plays stopped like Intermissions or Tv breaks.
Things about MTL is we're not into interfering with our Coaches
We let them play their system and its yielding results .


TBL has a culture of high turnover but their GM well GM's were smart to get maximum value finding Gem's.
Take the Drouin trade for example, They gave up a ready now player who was 3rd OA for Sergachev a prospect taken 9th OA i believe it was.
At first it looked like TBL gave up value in order to get a player at a position they needed.
In the End though TBL being saavy got a 2 time Stanley Cup Championship level D out of it.

MTL can do the same thing if we are smart about the minutes we give them.
Move all the Vet's out Matheson include and leave the rookies to tank or rise on their own.
They have multiple Former NHL Pro's on their Coaching staff alone who can help them from an experience POV.
Right now should be about Harris and Ghule taking on a similar Leadership Dynamic as Weber and Petry.


But really the only people who has to worry about not being here in 3 years arent part of the rebuild.
Allen and Savard have kept using this line "willing to plant seeds knows they wont ever sit under its shade."
They know they're gone as soon as a younger player they're guiding pushes them out.
Eddy hasnt said it but im sure he knows it.

Matheson is the only one who might take it hard , but i doubt it .

I'm only here to make sure another Habs fan wasn't trying to snag Devon Levi for next to nothing. You guys got some strong stuff up there.

lol ok

I am very glad you can take a joke lol

This place is funny enough already. I dont see how anyone takes anything here seriously. I mean who cares if i did make an ACGM for Levi. There are maybe a dozen ppl that wil watch these ACGMs

I like Harris except we have Edvinsson and Wallinder right behind him not to mention the breakout season Walman is having, Ld is our most crowded position.

Detroit says nope

Gurianov instead of Ryan Suzuki is a better bet. Went Wughes

I thought they'd take a chance with Leschyshyn at center with all the injuries but he cleared.

But are they ready now?
I mean im the guy advocating against the trade because despite having deep LD stockpile's Harris is our guy.
But that doesnt mean he wouldnt have earned the position even if it wasnt practical.

While i see his connections to the Coach and GM as a bit like Nepotism.
I also look at all the groundwork they laid in both Mentoring this kid who in turn Mentored and Captained both their Sons
Harris has become a strong Leadership Presence on the team

He's so good i see MTL pushing Ghule our top Defensman to RD rather then move Harris to clear space for Hutson.
Matheson has been in the trade conversation , Edumdson, Savard and even Wideman as MTL's content to let Ghule,Harris and Xhekaj lead their pairings relying on eachother .


All that said and as stocked as Stevie Y has truly made your team , you're not that stocked at LD.
Thats Assuming the Goal for Stevie Y is an Elite Level Dcore in the Cap Era that works on the ice and from a buisness POV.
What Harris brings on ice vs the cap he's making has value in itself. Never mind the Age and Maturity of a 22 year old Rookie and NCAA Graduate where he was Captain .
Or the fact his Rookie year despite all the obstacles has had its upside including making him one of 4 rookies MTL played most of the year with until Injuries took out 2/4
When they went down he continued to step up earning a mid seasn contract extension.

That all has value to a guy like Stevie Y supposedly building the next TBL Deep Franchise again

Tierney fits our Energy line which during injuries are always a big part in our Wins
because their 4th line consisnency is an issue obviously on offense but never on what they bring.

Until Drouin's gone Showcasing him at Center only has upside for us .
We win he gets more value at TDL
We lose we get a better pick in the Lotto

Literally no upside in claiming a 3rd line Center right now
Evans should be back in 2 weeks and we're only gonna have 1 weeks after the TDL we'll need someone.
Atleast until after the TDL and Evans/Gally's update i dont see us claiming anyone else .

I'd love to move Chairot out and Harris in but as much as I like the player i'm not moving a 1st to strengthen a position that's not a need. A center, a goal scorer, a Rd but ld just isn't a priority. Walman, Maatta, Chairot are fine down the left.

Thats a fair. Especially as the pick risks to be in the cushy middle and this draft is quite strong through the top20 picks. Habs will be looking for another Lou to grab that elusive mid 1st. I think Harris upside is much bigger than Romy who was a fan favourite with his physical play and little else. I'd be curious to see the price on Xhekaj but hes another with offensive upside unlike Romy. They need to eventually take more risks when they are dealing with a position of strenght on the left side.

I know that feeling, we have Edvinsson, Sabrango and Johansson in grand rapids, Wallinder in Sweden, Shai Buium in The NCAA all of them left d and all project to some level of nhl player and we keep waiting for Yzerman to trade someone for something of a bigger need.

See now this i can appreciate it cost vs reward.
What you argued before was you were strong enough as is .


While we'd love Chiarot back i think the only way it happens is in a deal for Matheson , Anderson or Gallagher from a contract POV we cant strech it much past there.
I'd gladly do a deal for Matheson even if you offered up 1 piece of Value whether its a conditional 1st in 2025 or Veleno level players (meaning age/level of play)

I dont see that working for either team.

I Dont get the Matheson rumours. He had a breakout season last year and is starting to pick it up again. There's a reason why the Habs started winning..its cause Matheson came back into the lineup. He's plus 9 on a terrible team with another career season PPG in the making. He's big at 6'2". He can skate very well, maybe top 10 in the league as a dman, he's from Mtl and loves it. You cant find players like this. You keep him and only trade him if the offer is outrageous. Same goes for Josh Anderson. Neither are replaceable. After awhile they have enough lottery tickets. 14 picks this draft including 2 1sts. At best you can maybe find another Matheson that develops in 5 years.

They only way I deal Matheson is for a 1st plus a good prospect and a roster player to a team desperate with a short window like the Oilers with McDrai for 2-3 more years. Matheson is too valuable with a bargain deal @4 yrs under 5M with the cap going up. For a top pair D playing upwards of 27-28 mins that pushes the play, that is so valuable.

Sbrango is in the ECHL as of Janruary
I mean i get your point but where's your love for McIsaac ?

Hate to Disagree but i got to as he's not part of our Future he's a plug we're trying to flip
But he has had value to FLA and PIT Potentially others and that said we've got a deal for you if you're interested.
He was the best possible return from Petry ,Which was fine as the time as Petry's wife was causing problems the longer we delayed (Pandemic split their family up accross boarders , she was mad)

He's injury prone i worn you though and wont last long term in MTL as we're traditionally the most injured team as of late.
Keeping him will only lead to more Price's , Byron's, Edmundson's,Weber's,Armia and Drouin's who are injured and MTL was stuck paying their contracts.


I do agree between injury stints he's had good games
But its always something with that guy unlike Edmundson its a new adventure every injury with Matheson.
If he was making 2.5-3m i dont think i care as much if the term is 1-2 years but we got 3-4 years left at nearly 5m a year

We're more interested in our own home grown prospects much like im sure you are with your team

Poor dude couldn't stay healthy, maybe a late bloomer. It's even worse when you look at that 2nd round where he got picked and see guys like Romanov, Durzi, Addison, Fehervary, Perunovich, Bahl all in the league.