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Created by: StephL05
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 30, 2023
Published: Apr. 30, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,850,000
2$1,000,000
8$8,250,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
2.
PHI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Sokolov, Egor [RFA Rights]
  3. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
3.
OTT
  1. Gibson, John ($1,800,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [RFA Rights]
  2. Mandolese, Kevin [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 7th round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,467,380$0$1,850,000$32,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$838,333$838,333
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$4,600,000$4,600,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$916,667$916,667
LD
RFA - 2

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Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
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No
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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John Gibson says no

Pat Verbeek says no

Insanity that you’re asking for retention on top of Gibson with that horrid return
Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
No


Lol that's okay I don't care where the cat goes but if it's with an extension a first, 2/3rd round pick and a forward with potential... preferably top 9 ready is coming back
Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
John Gibson says no

Pat Verbeek says no

Insanity that you’re asking for retention on top of Gibson with that horrid return


Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot
Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:39 a.m.
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Lol that's okay I don't care where the cat goes but if it's with an extension a first, 2/3rd round pick and a forward with potential... preferably top 9 ready is coming back


8-9 mil AAV for 27 goals. Good luck with that.
Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot


Verbeek has repeatedly said he's not shopping Gibson. That's not enough for Konecny either.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot


Well then I’m glad Verbeek said he isn’t trading him along with saying John doesn’t want to go anywhere so we’re fine wink
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Verbeek has repeatedly said he's not shopping Gibson. That's not enough for Konecny either.


My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡


I'm getting Bertuzzi flashbacks. He sucks. He rental. But we'll take him for a turd sandwich!
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
I'm getting Bertuzzi flashbacks. He sucks. He rental. But we'll take him for a turd sandwich!


Yeah it’s wild and honestly happens all the time

Have you looked at his stats? He sucks! Then check the lineup and they put _____ on their 1st line
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡


So emotional lol you realize this is a site for acgm, we're not trading for keepsies haha... also I didnr say he was no good id love to add him but that doesn't mean his value is what it use to be
Apr. 30, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: StephL05
So emotional lol you realize this is a site for acgm, we're not trading for keepsies haha... also I didnr say he was no good id love to add him but that doesn't mean his value is what it use to be


Can’t be emotional when it’s happened thousands of times my man

I know this site a lil more than you I’d say so yep I know what it is but thanks
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot

Then we won't be putting him on the market, because we expect him to be our starting goalie for the next four seasons, which is incidentally why you're acquiring him. What other player on your roster do you expect to play for you for the next four seasons who would only be worth that $h!t return?
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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OTT declines DET trade, they will NEVER trade Cat to DET unless a massive overpay, and OTT will keep their best D prospect and 2nd best G prospect over a G that has sucked the last 4 years
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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OTT declines DET trade, they will NEVER trade Cat to DET unless a massive overpay, and OTT will keep their best D prospect and 2nd best G prospect over a G that has sucked the last 4 years


I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here
Apr. 30, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here


fans always think their players are untouchable or elite even when they are not.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Detroit passes, Berggren isn't available for Cat.

And all Canadian teams are on John Gibsons no trade list.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: StephL05
I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here


God forbid someone disagrees with you. We can't have that now can we? I guess you can always cry about it.

I mean what would Ducks fans know about Gibson? They've only watched every game of his NHL career.

Disagreeing is allowed on CFACGM.
Apr. 30, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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fans always think their players are untouchable or elite even when they are not.


Look in the mirror, Captain Hypocrite.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Simply put, Ducks fans are of the opinion that Gibson is still an elite level starting goalie. We watch him play, so we know he still passes the eye test. His stats are an indictment of the team in front of him, not a sign that his abilities have diminished. Compared to league average goaltending over the past four seasons, he has only been off by a couple of percentage points each year, the majority of which he had no goal support and a once great defensive core that was decaying in front of him, and by the time he had goal support, said defensive core had been dismantled.

There is a reason he was an all-star just last year, he rolled into the all star break with the Ducks in 2nd place in the division and him rocking a 0.924 SV% on the season at that time. After the break was when it was announced the team would be selling at the TDL, and everyone lost hope, and the team plummeted to 21st in the standings.

So, knowing that he can still play at an elite level, and having VERY recent evidence to back up our belief that he will return to said level as soon as we can put a defense in front of him that can fight it's way out of a wet paper bag, we see no reason to trade him period, let alone for a flamed out former 1st round pick, another nothing prospect, and a 7th, let alone retain for four year on top of that to boot. Even if we for some reason we're feeling that charitable, Gibson would block the trade himself.

If he's "not worth much" then we are more than happy to keep him on our roster through the end of his contract, four years from now.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: StephL05
I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here

You should read people's comments more closely. No one is rejecting the Gibson trade because we think that Gibson is elite; we are rejecting that offer because YOU think that he's good enough to be your starting goalie for the next four seasons and if so, that's a $h!t return.
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Apr. 30, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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Look in the mirror, Captain Hypocrite.


biggest sens homer on the planet man
Apr. 30, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Yes, I wish all these trades would happen
 
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