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Girard trade maybe now other AVS fans can finally agree

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2023
Published: May 13, 2023
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1) AVS fans love GIrard, I get it. They called him 'untouchable' 4 years ago.
BUT
My argument is he is played out of 'depth' and is realistically #5 dman right now in Colorado. Col needs to make room to sign Byram and find a way to replace Landy this season. I honestly think they need to move Girard and find a better, big dman to close down other lines. And they need a cheap option. This trade gives them that. *Edit*: I'm NOT saying Edm is better. But he is bigger and shuts down better than Girard does, for sure.
If you think the 4th rounder and the 50% retained salary is not enough, please let me know what rd that pick should be.
2) For Mtl, Girard can play RD, a position we need to fill. He can also play on the PP, a position we have needed since Markov left. Once Hutson comes up, we will have 2 good options on the PP.
Mtl future RD would be:
Girard/Barron/Maillhoux or someone else.
3) This is the bridge I think CC should get. (Less than DeB who had more games played & stats when he signed his)
4) Whoever MTL drafts this year, they won't be playing NHL/AHL this season anyways.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
COL
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$71,524,166$1,170,000$4,195,000$11,975,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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May 13, 2023 at 5:46 a.m.
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Not an Avs fan, but looking at this trade as an outsider I doubt they would accept this. Girard is definitely a top 15-20 defenseman in the league. So the value is not close (IMO). Also, not to rub salt into the rebuild, but I feel this trade is one of those trades that just feel like an easy get out of rebuild for free cards. So most likely Avs fans will rip up this trade.
May 13, 2023 at 6:30 a.m.
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Having a cost controlled guy like him is far too valuable considering that in the next couple if years they need to resign Byram, Rantanen, Toews, etc...plus they need a 2C as well. With Landy being out, that allows them to kick things like parting away with Girard, for example, down the road.
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May 13, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
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Avs can just sign Jack Johnson for league min, bring in a known fit who(checks notes) is indeed big and shuts down incoming offense.
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May 13, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Nope we don't agree.
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May 13, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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There is so much wrong with your “assesment”. Girard isn’t out of his depth and doesn’t play a #5 role all you have to do is look at his career stats and the fact he just turned 25 yesterday. The last 4 seasons he has averaged 21.5 minutes plus of TOI tell me a single #5 dman that does that? In addition to that he has averaged .5 ppg over that stretch with basically zero PP1 time. So tell me on what planet any sane GM trades a 25yr old minute eating quality point producing transition dman for a 30yr old who can’t stay healthy produces a fraction of the points and is a pending UFA. All for the awesome price of a 3 rd pick and one season of $3m in cap space. Yeah that’s such a farcical trade proposal I feel bad for even commenting on it. Girard’s value is only going to go up as the cap goes up. COL has zero incentive to trade Girard especially in a move that clearly down grades their d overall. If COL WERE to trade Girard a number of things would have to happen, most like first and foremost Toews would have to sign an extension without that in place there is zero chance they move him. Second it has to be a bigger position of need with at least a multi-year answer I.E a 2C or VERY good top 6 winger, this does nothing for the Avs. Oh and btw I love how in one sentence you say “he is played out of 'depth' and is realistically #5 dman right now in Colorado“ (entirely untrue by the way) and then you drop him into your top pairing. So yeah that’s a resounding no from COL. As for replacing Landy COL is going to be targeting semi-reclamation projects and the guy probably at the top of that list is Drouin, who on a 1yr deal takes a fraction of what Landy makes. And as for Byram, he’s getting bridged because he isn’t arb eligible and even without Landy LTIR money they had plenty of space to sign him.
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May 13, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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I love Sammy G, he's my favorite player in the league. As much as I would love to see him here, I don't know that he's a fit. You mentionned that he plays RD, which is cool and a need, but he is still a LHD which we have too much of.

He would run the PP and be a great addition to the team for sure tho.
 
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