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A deal both Toronto and Edmonton fans will scream at

Created by: dls9
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2023
Published: May 18, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Leafs move Marner for a replacement + cap Space and buy a player with some more bite from FA
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$900,000
3$5,300,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
5$5,250,000
2$1,200,000
5$4,100,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
Additional Details:
RNH Will never score 100 points again. He's a 70 point guy on the decline, but only costs 5M. Marner is a top 3 RW in the league. Oilers make the "Kawhi" deal brining in a top 3 winger
EDM
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
Leafs downgrade from a 100 (99, whatever) point guy to an aging C/LW in RNH, but shaves off almost 6M in Cap to buy in Free Agency
2.
TOR
  1. Miller, K'Andre [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,969,283$0$0$2,530,717
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$4,100,000$4,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,200,000$1,200,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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May 18, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
#1
We have the passion
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Actually... Makes sense
May 18, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
#2
Save Mcdavid
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If edmonton can shed cap in this deal or through another team than fs why not I mean Marner and Mcdavid on one line would literally shatter the earth
May 18, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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tmljk22
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Why on earth would Edmonton fans get mad at this lmao
May 18, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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To be brutally honest, this trade seems horribly lopsided in favor of Edmonton and downright reckless for Toronto.

First and foremost, the Toronto Maple Leafs would be giving up Mitchell Marner, one of the premier wingers in the league. Marner is a phenomenal playmaker and a consistent 90+ point producer, and at his age, he has plenty of elite-level play ahead of him. Trading away such a valuable asset for an older, declining player like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is a catastrophic misjudgment of value.

Furthermore, Nugent-Hopkins is a good player, but calling him a "70 point guy on the decline" is almost generous. Realistically, he's more of a 50-60 point player now, and he's likely to continue sliding as he gets older. He may be cheaper, but the drop in production from Marner to Nugent-Hopkins is far steeper than the drop in their respective cap hits. Toronto would essentially be sacrificing their team's competitive strength to save a bit of money, which doesn't make sense for a team that's trying to win now.

Additionally, the so-called "Kawhi" deal comparison is deeply flawed. When the Toronto Raptors traded for Kawhi Leonard, they were getting an MVP-caliber player who could carry the team to a championship - which he did. Marner is a great player, but he's not on the same level as Kawhi was during his prime, and he's not the type of player who can single-handedly lead a team to a Stanley Cup.

The Leafs' apparent plan to use the saved cap space to buy in Free Agency is also dubious at best. Top-tier free agents are rarely available, and when they are, they usually demand contracts that are just as expensive, if not more so, than Marner's. Toronto would be taking a huge risk by hoping that they can find a player of Marner's caliber in Free Agency, especially considering that such players are few and far between.

All in all, this trade is a disaster for Toronto. They would be giving up an elite player in his prime for a declining one, all while jeopardizing their competitive prospects in the hope of saving some cap space. It's an inexplicable move that would only serve to set the team back years in their pursuit of a championship.
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May 18, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Rangers pass, K'Andre is a core piece on D and not being traded.
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May 18, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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2 late firsts wont get you miller.
May 18, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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GM
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No thanks, I can interest you in an one for one about Goodrow for Knies? wink
May 18, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Wannabe Team Builder
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Yeah, that Marner for RNH isn't worth it. First the value is off by a considerable amount and RNH will come with a term of 6 years. Not a fan of that, especially for a declining player that you mentioned yourself.
May 18, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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Birddog
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Loved Miller until he spit in a guys face.
May 18, 2023 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: tmljk22
Why on earth would Edmonton fans get mad at this lmao


because Nuge is a fan favorite we almost worship him like a god because he stuck around in the decade of darkness when he could have easily walk to FA, and has stated multiple times that he wants to play his entire career as an Oiler, that right there makes him extremely important since the Oilers have a hard time getting free agents to come to Edmonton even with Connor and Leon on the team. Nuge is the definition of what it means to be an Oiler just like Ryan Smyth.
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May 18, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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tmljk22
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Quoting: TheDroakner97
because Nuge is a fan favorite we almost worship him like a god because he stuck around in the decade of darkness when he could have easily walk to FA, and has stated multiple times that he wants to play his entire career as an Oiler, that right there makes him extremely important since the Oilers have a hard time getting free agents to come to Edmonton even with Connor and Leon on the team. Nuge is the definition of what it means to be an Oiler just like Ryan Smyth.


Oh that’s makes a lot more sense, had no idea he was such a fan favourite.
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May 18, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Soggy
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Two late 1sts for Miller definitely gets Drury's attention, but it's gonna need some frosting, especially with Drury having no reason to trade Miller.
May 18, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
Two late 1sts for Miller definitely gets Drury's attention, but it's gonna need some frosting, especially with Drury having no reason to trade Miller.


There is pretty much zero chance that gets Drury's attention lmao
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