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Flipping Montour for Long Term Success

Created by: Joxu
Team: 2023-24 Florida Panthers
Initial Creation Date: May 25, 2023
Published: May 25, 2023
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Why trade Montour?

If Florida was to keep him they'd either have to let him go next season for nothing (which might be worth it if it leads to a cup) or give him a new contract starting at the age of 30. I can not see Montour being able to replicate his production for any more than 3 years if he can even keep it up. Trading Montour this season could get them a very good return which they could flip to fill the teams gaps and make them more competitive for longer.

I know they are trading for a 30-year-old defenseman here which can look weird but Murphy is a great defensive defenseman on a good contract that won't become an anchor. Adding a young winger on a good contract would make the top 9 more connected and could solidify the lines.

The only worry I have is the offense failing if Ekblad has another down season since they wouldn't have their second offensive defenseman. Maybe they could look into getting a more two-way defenseman instead of signing Graves but the price and contract would have to be right. Orlov could be a good fit but the contract would have to relatively short because he is getting pretty old. Giving Lucas Carlsson the chance to prove himself wouldn't be a horrible idea either.

Do Oilers and Blackhawks accept the trades? Tweaking is always possible but I think the fit is there.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
1$800,000
6$4,400,000
Trades
1.
FLA
  1. Niemeläinen, Markus
  2. Petrov, Matvei
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Montour, Brandon
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Resigns at 6-7m AAV
2.
FLA
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Raddysh, Taylor
CHI
  1. Denisenko, Grigori [RFA Rights]
  2. Petrov, Matvei
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,358,334$212,500$850,000$1,141,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Verhaeghe, Carter
$4,166,667$4,166,667
LW
UFA - 2
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Barkov, Aleksander
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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Reinhart, Sam
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Duclair, Anthony
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Lundell, Anton
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Tkachuk, Matthew
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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Luostarinen, Eetu
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Bennett, Sam
$4,425,000$4,425,000
C
UFA - 2
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Raddysh, Taylor
$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 1
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Lomberg, Ryan
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Cousins, Nick
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Smith, Craig
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Graves, Ryan
$4,400,000$4,400,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Ekblad, Aaron
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Bobrovsky, Sergei
$10,000,000$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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Forsling, Gustav
$2,666,667$2,666,667
LD
UFA - 1
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Murphy, Connor
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Waivers ExemptKnight, Spencer
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
RFA - 3
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Mahura, Josh
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Gudas, Radko
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Niemeläinen, Markus
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptSamoskevich, Mackie
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
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Dalpe, Zac
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptSourdif, Justin
$847,500$847,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptBenning, Michael
$916,667$916,667
RD
RFA - 2

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May 25, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.
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Yasher97
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edm doesnt have the cap space for montour
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May 25, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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More crazy talk basing a trade on an extension. Oilers may not even cap for Montour now......and of course why would they want extend him for that term.........the same reason you donn't
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May 25, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Yasher97
edm doesnt have the cap space for montour


dump ceci
May 25, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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dump ceci


We have to re-sign bouchard
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May 25, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Yasher97
edm doesnt have the cap space for montour


It'll only be 3,5 million for the 2023-24 season and after that the cap is said to be rising most likely to around 86-88 million so I don't think it's and impossible task. If they cant fit him next season Oilers could trade someone like Ceci who's on a similar cap hit. As for the Bouchard problem is a bridge deal not an option? They could use the Dobson deal as a good start for a negotiation.
May 25, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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I would simply keep him and give him the Graves and Murphy money and find a cheaper graves
May 25, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Oiler_fan88
We have to re-sign bouchard


bridge deal most likely they have to get rid of kulak or foegele anyways lol
May 25, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I would simply keep him and give him the Graves and Murphy money and find a cheaper graves


I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.
May 25, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.


Yeah, and then find a 1.5-2 million lhd instead of paying graves. You are paying Murphy and graves 8.8 million a year to be average
May 25, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Sicksi
bridge deal most likely they have to get rid of kulak or foegele anyways lol


hollands basically come out and said that the only 2 guys we'd trade for cap dumps are yamo and ceci
foegle probably leaves at the tdl if he doesnt preform
May 25, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Yasher97
hollands basically come out and said that the only 2 guys we'd trade for cap dumps are yamo and ceci
foegle probably leaves at the tdl if he doesnt preform


ken holland would totally trade a player outperforming his contract im not shocked at that
May 25, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Yeah, and then find a 1.5-2 million lhd instead of paying graves. You are paying Murphy and graves 8.8 million a year to be average


Florida should definitely not go another season with the "Marc Staal in the second pair" idea. It has fortunately worked these playoffs but not having a player like Murphy or Graves in their top 4 has been hurting them occasionally.
May 25, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.
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Florida should definitely not go another season with the "Marc Staal in the second pair" idea. It has fortunately worked these playoffs but not having a player like Murphy or Graves in their top 4 has been hurting them occasionally.


They are in the finals!
May 25, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Joxu
I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.

Montour isn't a 70-point defenseman to the Oilers though. He scored nearly half his points on the PP, and isn't going to get PP time in Edmonton. So they aren't paying top dollar for a rental they'll only get partial use out of.
May 25, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Replace Denisenko w/ the '25 2nd and the Hawks probably consider this
 
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