I have toyed around with trading for one of the defenseman from the Wild. It would be Brodin or Middleton I go after though.

Brodin 10000% though I’m skeptical of that contract in a couple years as he goes up in his 30’s.

Though with the cap going up next year it shouldn’t be all that worrying, worst case we buy it out and pay it off for a year or 2 down the road. Def worth that price now though, I’d make the trade.

Aside from that, what are your thoughts on the rest of this?

I’d pass on Mikkola, l watched a bunch of Rangers games towards the end of the year and he is not a good player from the eye test. Could get somebody better for the same price.

Understandable take tbh, I think he was a solid 3rd pairing Dman on that team but yea their is definitely similar options available.

Aside from that, thoughts on the rest of this roster?

Minnesota declines so does spurgeon

Wild aren't trading brodin, and he's not waiving. Middleton isn't available either. Don't know why you think either wild players will be traded

I don’t think they decline that but ok

Spurgeon also waives for PIT but cool

Yes they absolutely do. They aren't trading their captain, and spurgeon absolutely do. Trash value that you think you can get spurgeon for so little. Lol... spurgeon will not move his kids and Minnesota wife / family. He's made that abundance clear. Minnesota isn't rebuilding so they do

I would take Jarry on a 1-2 year prove it deal, but projections have him going for 5-6 mil for 5-6 years. Anything past 2 years or 4 mil I definitely let him walk

Well sir for a $7m contract north of 3 years, on a cap strapped pressured Minnesota team, I wouldn’t rule them out to at least consider an offer for Brodin.

A 2nd & 3rd is a pretty “ballpark value” for a 2 way dman getting payed $7m with some term on him into his late 30’s. If you want to replace that 3rd with a ‘24 first, I would be okay with that and I think THATS a reasonable trade and the most I’d pay as PIT GM.

Totally agree. I am absolutely not signing anything on Jarry if it’s associated above $4.5m AAV. Steer far from that.

Aside from that, thoughts on this roster/ACGM?

Minnesota isn't trading one of the best dman in the league no matter what people like you think. Just because Minnesota is cap strapped doesn't mean they are rebuilding. Sounds like your just trolling or think you can get what you want at your price. No again your spurgeon offer is crap and Minnesota isn't trading the players. They aren't rebuilding

No he definitely would not.

Lmfaoooo no I’m not trolling I’m just telling you what you don’t want to hear. You aren’t getting a haul for a dman signed into his late thirties on a contract north of $7m. My offer is not crap and you’re flat out wrong

You offer is crap and kn trolling level. Your bs reasons and being called out for it is what you don't want to hear. Like because Minnesota is cap strapped, it should give away its two best players any team will pay for. You just want to get yes

It's crap.

Sorry your having to hear something that you don't want to hear. But you know... your wrong... flat out.

Age carries NO weight when dealing with a top ten Norris caliber defenseman who wears a letter let alone the C. If you want a top pairing defenseman, it's going to cost. No matter the age. Or does the Brent Burns trade mean nothing to you? Because Spurgeon is getting at least that much back at minimum.

Furthermore, neither Brodin or Middleton are available either. One of THE best shutdown defenseman in league on a great contract IS NOT getting moved. Keep dreaming. Neither is Minnesota's only physical D-man left after Dumba leaves.

It’s not crap tho

C or not that doesn’t change anything. Also, Burns makes $8m AAV and is only signed for 2 more years and is still producing dating back to when they made the trade (Brodin likewise still producing.) Also a top pairing dman. Sharks retained 33% on Burns and traded away Lane Pederson, who the Canes later flipped to VAN in the Bear trade. Sharks got back a young bottom 6er in Lorentz (not a marginal loss under any circumstance), a 2023 third rounder, and prospect Eetu Makiniemi (a 4th round draft pick from several draft years ago) and whom is a goalie prospect of which the Canes have a line aside him and could afford to lose him.

Overall, your argument is very invalid. The Burns trade wasn’t all that much AT ALL and the Canes still got retention on it, and a good bit of retention for that matter.

A first and a second for Spurgeon is a fair deal and arguably more value than the Burns trade…. And not to mention Spurgeon makes $1m less and is signed until his late 30’s which does in fact matter, unlike your statement. When you trade for a player, age is absolutely taken into account so that is blasphemy for you to say age has no effect on the trade, because hehe quite frankly it does my friend.

Never said anything about Middleton, you’re now the second Wild fan to claim something about “2 defenseman” this was strictly a trade for Brodin, nowhere in this thread or anywhere have **I** mentioned us trading for Middleton, but go off.

So, in summary it’s one thing for you 2 to go saying the Wild aren’t moving Brodin but it’s another for you 2 to **** on the value when the very trade you just brought up has a combined LESS VALUE LOL then what I’ve proposed. (Yes, you can ditch the third and make it ‘24 1st and ‘25 2nd.)

Sharks are and were rebuilding and Minnesota isn't abd you just happened to ignore that. Burns has two years left , abd spurgeon doesn't. Burns doesn't he nmc and isn't better than brodin or spurgeon. Age doesn't matter in trade, false Logic and reasoning! Lol 24 1st abd 25 2nd and Minnesota still says no. So does spurgeon and brodin

And the fact they’re rebuilding doesn’t change a damn thing on the value. Whole time I was confusing myself on Brodin/Spurgeon. Wasn’t meaning to include Brodin, I am solely talking about Spurgeon as it relates to this trade I have in this ACGM. “False logic and reasoning” lmao you just pulled that one out of your ass eh? Because age and term definitely matter in a hockey trade buddy.

No it definitely doesn't

This discussion was hilarious lol.......but I think the Wild absolutely listen to this offer for Spurgeon. Agree with the idea that Wild fans don't want to hear this talk but its true. Just like Pens fans don't want a Guentzel trade but it could happen, different circumstances but same idea. Guerin said they need some roster changes and this would clear cap and get rid of an awful contract. Guerin absolutely at least listens to this trade.

Funny eh? These 2 dimwits wanna sit here and argue over Minnesota listening to the offer and the value being “off” which if you thoroughly read my explanation and my reasoning and emphasis on the deal, you’d understand the value is right where it needs to be.

“AgE anD tErM haS nO EfFecT oN a TraDe In tHe NHL” goofiest **** I’ve ever heard LOL

Yea it definitely does buddy, go educate yourself on the basis of a hockey trade

Then what's the point of this whole website? It's here to share ideas and come up with scenarios.

Smoke some weed or something pal. Relax.

This guy has lost his mind, just read our argument above