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Created by: DirtyDangles
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2023
Published: May 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
2$2,250,000
2$1,750,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
2.
PHI
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($2,142,857 retained)
  2. Provorov, Ivan
3.
PHI
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (ANA)
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ANA
  1. Deangelo, Anthony ($2,500,000 retained)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$83,500,000$68,771,024$1,187,500$70,000$14,728,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$37,500$38K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
G
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1

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May 26, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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LOL my old-timer highschool Social Studies teacher used to say this all the time, while flapping his old man jowels.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
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LOL my old-timer highschool Social Studies teacher used to say this all the time, while flapping his old man jowels.


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May 26, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Not gonna lie I hate that TI trade I know the pick is high but I don’t think it’s enough
May 26, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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Not gonna lie I hate that TI trade I know the pick is high but I don’t think it’s enough


I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.
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May 26, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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Canucks aren’t trading 11OA for a winger. We already have to many wingers
May 26, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.


Maybe, maybe not. Just not a big fan of that package
May 26, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Canucks aren’t trading 11OA for a winger. We already have to many wingers


Kuzmenko/EP40/Konecny
Beauvillier/JT MIller/Boeser
Hoglander or Podkolzin/Raty/Garland

Tell me again how you have too many good wingers?
May 26, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Kuzmenko/EP40/Konecny
Beauvillier/JT MIller/Boeser
Hoglander or Podkolzin/Raty/Garland

Tell me again how you have too many good wingers?


We also have Mikheyev, who will play with Petey and Kuzmenko as they played extremely well together. One of Boeser or Garland will likely be moved, which lets us round out the top 9 with Garland/Boeser, Beauvillier, Podkolzin, and Hoglander (I think both Podkolzin and Hoglander need a real shot in the top 9 this year)

Konecny is a great player don’t get me wrong, and would be a top 2 winger on the Canucks, I just don’t think the Canucks are the right fit for him at this time. Maybe if we end up moving both Boeser and Garland
May 26, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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We also have Mikheyev, who will play with Petey and Kuzmenko as they played extremely well together. One of Boeser or Garland will likely be moved, which lets us round out the top 9 with Garland/Boeser, Beauvillier, Podkolzin, and Hoglander (I think both Podkolzin and Hoglander need a real shot in the top 9 this year)

Konecny is a great player don’t get me wrong, and would be a top 2 winger on the Canucks, I just don’t think the Canucks are the right fit for him at this time. Maybe if we end up moving both Boeser and Garland


Have fun with your 2 legit top 6 wingers. Might as well go into rebuild mode.
May 26, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Canucks decline. The last thing we need is to be adding more expensive wingers.
May 26, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.
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Canucks decline. The last thing we need is to be adding more expensive wingers.


You left out the word "good"...you are missing good wingers
May 26, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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I don't see Canucks trading Myers for Konecny.
It just doesn't make sense.
May 26, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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I don't see Canucks trading Myers for Konecny.
It just doesn't make sense.


Getting a useful player for a useless player doesn't make sense?
May 26, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Getting a useful player for a useless player doesn't make sense.


Konecny wasn't that good when he was playing with the Flyers.
May 26, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.
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Konecny wasn't that good when he was playing with the Flyers.


61 points in 60 games is not good...got it!
May 26, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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61 points in 60 games is not good...got it!


So you think he could be a valuable player for Vancouver in 2023-2024 season?
May 26, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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So you think he could be a valuable player for Vancouver in 2023-2024 season?


If you mean by being your top line RWer, then ya
May 26, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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If you mean by being your top line RWer, then ya


I agree with you on that.
May 26, 2023 at 4:01 p.m.
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Canucks aren't a great landing spot for Konecny. We have enough wingers and wouldn't be all too interested. Value is fair, just not a great team for him to go to
May 26, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
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Canucks aren't a great landing spot for Konecny. We have enough wingers and wouldn't be all too interested. Value is fair, just not a great team for him to go to


There seems to be this misconception by Canucks fans that he is just another winger. He would be the #1 or #2 winger on the team. Just because you have a lot of not so good wingers, doesn't mean you don't get a good one.
May 26, 2023 at 4:07 p.m.
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There seems to be this misconception by Canucks fans that he is just another winger. He would be the #1 or #2 winger on the team. Just because you have a lot of not so good wingers, doesn't mean you don't get a good one.


Yeah but that's not the issue. I'd love for a star winger but if you're Vancouver, you need pretty much everything else more. Centres, Defence, Prospects. Adding to an already overcrowded group of winger's doesn't make sense.
May 26, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
You left out the word "good"...you are missing good wingers


Sure, Konecny would be one of our best wingers. However, just because a player is an improvement doesn’t mean it makes sense to trade for him. We are fine at winger, investing more money just to create a bigger logjam doesn’t make sense. Not only does this deal strengthen our strongest position, but it also weakens our already weak prospect pool by losing the 11th puck in a stacked draft. On top of that, it makes our bad cap situation even worse by adding another big contract to a position where we don’t need it.

It’s the same as offering J.T. Miller for Philly’s 2024 1st. Miller would immediately step in as Philly’s 1C and be an improvement at the position. However, you don’t just look at the improvement as there are many other factors to consider in that deal that would make Philly obviously decline.
May 26, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
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Sure, Konecny would be one of our best wingers. However, just because a player is an improvement doesn’t mean it makes sense to trade for him. We are fine at winger, investing more money just to create a bigger logjam doesn’t make sense. Not only does this deal strengthen our strongest position, but it also weakens our already weak prospect pool by losing the 11th puck in a stacked draft. On top of that, it makes our bad cap situation even worse by adding another big contract to a position where we don’t need it.

It’s the same as offering J.T. Miller for Philly’s 2024 1st. Miller would immediately step in as Philly’s 1C and be an improvement at the position. However, you don’t just look at the improvement as there are many other factors to consider in that deal that would make Philly obviously decline.


You think W is your strongest position? Having a logjam of meh doesn’t make you strong. As for your Flyers comparison, it’s a false equivalency. Where is the $6 mil cap dump?
May 26, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.


His asks are always delusional.
May 26, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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A small winger is just about the very last thing the Canucks need. They need picks, prospects, young center men, young defensemen. Konecny is not a fit for Vancouver
 
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