according to flyers fans, 10 un protected 1st, Stu, brady and all OTT best prospects, reality a 2nd at most

this would still give us a better chance at winning than the goaltending we got last year

Pinto ?

Tough pill to swallow but I'd do it since we have Greig coming up. Seems fair

Pinto will probably make between 2.5M-3.5m
Hart at 4M, OTT only add 1M ish on their cap
Would you send Forsberg the other way ?
Hart/Forsberg or
Hart/Soogards ?

2024 1st top 5 protected, Lassi Thomson, Jarventie maybe...whatever it is, it's gotta be a decent overpay or why would we move him.

Because PHI isn't going to be competing this year, and losing stunts a goaltenders growth?

I think if the Flyers want D-Cat, then trade D-Cat for Hart and a mid pick or something.

Not a Flyers fan but my best realistic guess is that the talks would be 1 of Järventie or Grieg and a top 12 protected 1st round pick and a 3rd or 4th round pick in next years draft. If Briere wants a more NHL ready player than maybe Thomson instead.

Flyers fans are probably gonna want more but realistically and historically goalies don’t get a huge return. Especially ones that haven’t proven their anything more than a league average goalie

Hart was our best player last year and is 24 years old. Goalies don't usually hit prime until 27ish. He has 5 NHL seasons already under his belt. You don't trade that because you think "losing may stunt his growth.

We do not

Hart is not even remotely close to worth Pinto, Pinto has FAR more value than Hart

You trade because he is an asset of which won't bring much return on the ice right now. Hart will not be the goaltender to bring PHI to the promise land. Sell high while you're starting your rebuild.

A 24 year old will not be the goalie to bring PHI to the promise land but he will for the Sens?

Dear Jesus, make it make sense.

This is a joke right?

Philly will not be contending any time soon. Ottawa is ready. All they need is goaltending.

Does that help?

No, because your argument still makes no sense as to why we should trade him.

Phi needs reset - get prospects and picks (or reset button)
Ott needs goalie - get goalie

no its called reality, Gs are worth far less than all other positions that is reality better accept it because you will be disappointed in what Hart will return for PHI just like almost everyone here is when their "star" player on their team is traded.

an asset is an asset, a 2nd is still a 2nd and that is what he is worth at the most.

Then he doesn't get moved...this isn't a difficult concept.

then keep him, you maybe able to eventually find a GM who will overpay, that happens, just look a Tanner Jeannot trade, ooof

We aren't looking to move Hart, so...

This guy just has a real vendetta against Hart it seems. Ask most they will say his value ranges around a 1st a a 1 or 2 solid prospects. Pretending that he's only worth a 2nd is crazy, but I just assume they're tired of seeing Hart to Sens that either overpay for him or severely underpay.

I'm tired of seeing Hart to anywhere as it's not happening.