Leafs take that and run

Smart trade with WPG. That is good for both teams.

Say what?! No chance 😂

Honestly, if Detroit is getting an extension as part of the deal - Nylander starts with Raymond and the 17th pick in this years draft. Raymond has been good for 2 seasons, but hasn’t shown the consistency yet in the league and is due for a raise after next season. Nylander has progressed every season and has proven he’s a playoff performer. He’s on a bargain contract and even your extension of $8.75m is a good deal since the cap will go up. Add in the fact that Detroit and Toronto are interdivisional rivals and Detroit is certainly giving up a lot to get Nylander.

Raymond is 6 years younger than Nylander and a former 4th overall pick that has proven himself with a lot weaker team than he would have in Toronto. Nylander is going to demand nearly $9M into his late 30s. Plus you are getting draft picks you can flip for something else.

Love Nylander, but would drive him to airport for this

Willy is 27, 28 at FA so late 30’s - huh🤨? $9M for 40 goal scorer - gladly pay that. What has Raymond proven? Decent player on a bad team (I agree) but nothing I have seen screams he’ll reach Willy’s level anytime soon and our competitive window is now not a few years from now. Flipping picks for impact players is easy to say but hard to do; exactly why leafs shouldn’t move an impact player in his prime.

1. I said extention into late 30s he would be 29 when extention starts + 8 years (you do math)
2. He is a 40 goal scorer now, not sure ho you will feel about the $9 when he is no longer putting those numbers up. How do you feel about Tavares contract
3. Nylanders First 2 seasons in NHL - (22G, 61PTS and 20G, 60PTS) Raymonds first two (23G, 57PTS and 17G, 45 PTs (played 10 less games) He may not be at Nyalnders level now but he is trending in right direction, and is going to cost about half the $ during the prime of his career. You can then use extra cap space to improve lineup.

Who said he sign 8 years; he’d be 28 when signs next deal. Simple math. And no worries about how contract will age - Tavares’ deal would be a lot better right now if covid hadn’t broken the cap.
We just disagree - Raymond looks to me to be a middle 6 guy at best, maybe 30 goals but that’s a stretch. Willy is elite and in his prime now - makes zero sense to move him. Cap space - terrible FA crop this year, no one near Willy’s level is available anyway

1. Wings decline that lol.
2. I take it tbh, even if I personally think it's a lil too much.
3. Don't think that's enough for Lindholm, but if so don't see why Detroit wouldn't do this.
4. Sure.
5. Does this trade warrant an opinion? Such an indifferent deal.
6. Not sure

>Downplays the future/growth of a 21 y/o while advocating for the future of a 28 y/o

And if you do sign FAs with the cap you freed up by dumping Willy - you don’t think you’d have to commit term to those FA signings? Again, makes no sense

You are projecting Raymond to be a middle six forward based on his first 2 years in the NHL. He was a fourth overall pick and in the running for the Calder for the priority of the year.

You're right you would have to extend Raymond but you would be buying up year where he is in his prime vs when Nylander is declining.

Players at Nylander's age do not sign 3-4 year deals because this is when their value is the highest so they want to cash in now.

I have a solution - you can keep your “promising “ 21 year old winger and we’ll keep the 27 year old elite scoring winger

You’re an agent too? I think you’ll be surprised - a lot of guys will sign shorter term deals now so they get a second shot when cap is way up from today

For sure it depends on the players interest, but that move is risky for the players. If he gets hurt two years into an 8 year deal he still makes 6 extra years of income vs a bridge deal that runs out before his mid 30s.

Yeah, but it’s too bad your solution isn’t what is likely to happen. Nylander has probably an 80% chance of being traded this year or walk as a free agent at the end of the year.

Huh? Not sure what you meant - no guarantees but I’m confident Willy stays and will be extended, 5x$9 is my best guess. Leafs & Toronto are a preferred location

Yeah I don’t think he’ll be a leaf after this year

Pretty standard for wings fans to hope for the worst when it comes to the Leafs 😂, but no one up here is too worried. Like I said Leafs are the (or one of the) elite markets in nhl. Preferred location for most players including Willy

Don’t project on me homie. Nobody said anything about hoping anything. I don’t hate the leafs or hope for negative things for any team for that matter.

I simply said I don’t think he’ll remain with the leafs. Worry or don’t worry, I really don’t care.

All right you’re neutral; why do you think nylander won’t remain with the leafs? No indication he is going anywhere is there and no indication he won’t re-sign that I’m aware of

Just a gut feeling that is derived from a combination of a new GM, same core of players simply unable to get over the hurdle year after year, I’d also expect money/salaries to be taken into consideration a little more (spread out) to form a deeper roster and dishing out a 5th contract of $9-$10m+ just doesn’t seem like the sensible route to go.

IF they do keep Nylander, someone else significant (Marner or Reilly) will probably be traded.

Wow, Detroit gets all the good players for half off. You are definitely going to be GM of the year.

Wow, man you’re funny you should be a comedian.

You should be the Red Wings GM