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Trade with MTL

Created by: Jacketsman61
Team: 2017-18 Columbus Blue Jackets
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2017
Published: Jun. 21, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,750,000
3$1,750,000
3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kovalchuk, Ilya
2$4,500,000
Gavrikov, Vladislav
2$895,000
Trades
1.
CBJ
    Future considerations
    VGK
    1. Clarkson, David
    2. Vigneault, Sam
    3. 2017 1st round pick (CBJ)
    2.
    CBJ
      Via Expansion Draft
      3.
      CBJ
        Rights to Galchenyuk
        4.
        CBJ
          Kovalchuk
          Signed 2 yrs at 4.5 per
          5.
          CBJ
          1. 2017 3rd round pick (NSH)
          NSH
          1. Hartnell, Scott ($2,000,000 retained)
          Buyouts
          Retained Salary Transactions
          DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
          2017
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          2018
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          2019
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          ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
          22$75,000,000$63,262,976$0$1,065,000$11,737,024
          Left WingCentreRight Wing
          $5,000,000$5,000,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 4
          $3,500,000$3,500,000
          C
          UFA - 6
          $3,500,000$3,500,000
          RW, LW
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          $1,375,000$1,375,000
          LW, C, RW
          NMC
          UFA - 4
          $4,750,000$4,750,000
          LW, C, RW
          UFA - 3
          Kovalchuk, Ilya
          $4,500,000$4,500,000
          $2,900,000$2,900,000
          C, LW
          UFA - 1
          $5,850,000$5,850,000
          C, LW
          NMC
          UFA - 4
          $655,833$655,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
          RW, LW
          UFA - 1
          $1,000,000$1,000,000
          C
          UFA - 1
          $825,000$825,000
          C, LW, RW
          UFA - 2
          $1,750,000$1,750,000
          RW, LW
          UFA - 3
          $675,000$675,000
          LW
          UFA - 2
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
          $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
          LD
          UFA - 2
          $5,400,000$5,400,000
          RD
          UFA - 5
          $7,425,000$7,425,000
          G
          NMC
          UFA - 2
          $4,357,143$4,357,143
          LD
          UFA - 1
          $1,062,500$1,062,500
          RD
          UFA - 4
          $900,000$900,000
          G
          UFA - 2
          Gavrikov, Vladislav
          $895,000$895,000
          $817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
          LD/RD
          UFA - 1
          $675,000$675,000
          LD
          UFA - 2

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          Jun. 21, 2017 at 5:21 a.m.
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          Not gonna happen, Ryan Murray vs Galchy is really not enough to get him out of here.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 6:37 a.m.
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          Quoting: MaximeMurray
          Not gonna happen, Ryan Murray vs Galchy is really not enough to get him out of here.


          Jackets should ask more than Galchenyuk?
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 8:08 a.m.
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          Murray/Galchenyuk swap is fair value for each. This would be an ideal offseason for Columbus all around.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 8:25 a.m.
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          No from Habs
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 9:51 a.m.
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          Galchy >>> Murray. Jackets add Wennberg
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 11:14 a.m.
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          Quoting: Montreality25
          Galchy >>> Murray. Jackets add Wennberg


          Why is it Montreal fans think their players are worth an ungodly amount and others teams are not?

          Galchenyuk is not a 1C. He is a very good 2C. Wennberg is on par with Galchenyuk. Murray being a young, controllable defenseman has a lot of value. Murray for Galchenyuk is an even trade.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 12:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: Jacketsman61
          Quoting: Montreality25
          Galchy >>> Murray. Jackets add Wennberg


          Why is it Montreal fans think their players are worth an ungodly amount and others teams are not?

          Galchenyuk is not a 1C. He is a very good 2C. Wennberg is on par with Galchenyuk. Murray being a young, controllable defenseman has a lot of value. Murray for Galchenyuk is an even trade.


          Murray is honestly underwhelming and it would be a gamble that he could be a long term partner for Weber. Galchenyuk is more of a safe bet, because there's no questioning his ability to produce.
          Galchenyuk is not a 2nd line center, he's a first line left winger stuck behind Pacioretty, because he "can't play center". rolling eyes

          Montreal needs a partner for Weber and a first line center. Trading Galchenyuk for anything else is a loss. Of course Bergevin seems to like taking a loss on his former 1st round picks. squinty smile
          Galchenyuk/Wennberg makes more sense for Montreal, but I'm not sure Columbus has the depth at either LD or C to give Montreal what they need.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 12:19 p.m.
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          Quoting: ricochetii
          Quoting: Jacketsman61


          Why is it Montreal fans think their players are worth an ungodly amount and others teams are not?

          Galchenyuk is not a 1C. He is a very good 2C. Wennberg is on par with Galchenyuk. Murray being a young, controllable defenseman has a lot of value. Murray for Galchenyuk is an even trade.


          Murray is honestly underwhelming and it would be a gamble that he could be a long term partner for Weber. Galchenyuk is more of a safe bet, because there's no questioning his ability to produce.
          Galchenyuk is not a 2nd line center, he's a first line left winger stuck behind Pacioretty, because he "can't play center". rolling eyes

          Montreal needs a partner for Weber and a first line center. Trading Galchenyuk for anything else is a loss. Of course Bergevin seems to like taking a loss on his former 1st round picks. squinty smile
          Galchenyuk/Wennberg makes more sense for Montreal, but I'm not sure Columbus has the depth at either LD or C to give Montreal what they need.


          Murray is better than what people think. Last year he fell victim to circumstance. Werenski showed up, and there is no question Werenski is better than Murray. The real question, is Murray better than Johnson? Murray is better player than Johnson. The problem for Murray is Johnson can only play with Savard. So by default Murray was relegated to the third pair.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 1:35 p.m.
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          Galchenyuk can fetch plenty more than an unproven #4-6 dman (Murray). Bergevin has sort of shot himself in the foot with his defense moves so far this offseason, so I guess there's always the possibility for him to make this deal.

          Would be a significant win for CLB if it went through.
          Jun. 21, 2017 at 2:07 p.m.
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          Quoting: Jacketsman61
          Quoting: ricochetii


          Murray is honestly underwhelming and it would be a gamble that he could be a long term partner for Weber. Galchenyuk is more of a safe bet, because there's no questioning his ability to produce.
          Galchenyuk is not a 2nd line center, he's a first line left winger stuck behind Pacioretty, because he "can't play center". rolling eyes

          Montreal needs a partner for Weber and a first line center. Trading Galchenyuk for anything else is a loss. Of course Bergevin seems to like taking a loss on his former 1st round picks. squinty smile
          Galchenyuk/Wennberg makes more sense for Montreal, but I'm not sure Columbus has the depth at either LD or C to give Montreal what they need.


          Murray is better than what people think. Last year he fell victim to circumstance. Werenski showed up, and there is no question Werenski is better than Murray. The real question, is Murray better than Johnson? Murray is better player than Johnson. The problem for Murray is Johnson can only play with Savard. So by default Murray was relegated to the third pair.


          Murray is a career negative possession player, negative goal differentials, and negative shot suppression at even strength. Being on the 3rd pairing, where you typically face lesser competition, doesn't help when his numbers were particularly poor last season.

          I'm not saying he doesn't have potential or room to improve, but he's simply not close to Galchenyuk in terms of value right now, and Montreal needs "right now" solutions.
          Wennberg is the closest thing to that as a potential #1C and that leaves Columbus with less than ideal options for the same position (unless they put Galchenyuk there), which is why I say the two teams aren't necessarily a fit for each other. Even Werenski as a potential Weber partner is a risk (probably a worthwhile one, but still a gamble).
           
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