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I can see this happening but not sure that suzuki will be wanted maybe another asset would have to go?

dont know if its enough....

Suzuki isnt done, or a plummeting prospect certainly but really hasnt produced in 3 yrs in AHL and the 1st is very late in the round.

PHI doesn;t have to move Hart by any account, so it would take an overpayment to do so, and this isnt it

PHI doesn't HAVE to move him...yes. But if PHI truly is doing a rebuild. His value likely isn't going up on a team going down. Just like the Hawks did...trade you're pieces to the highest bigger this offseason. Dach/Debrincat style. Not saying this would be the winning offer. Just the whole forced part is accurate, but it's in their best interest to do it soon.

Probably not true, in Koneckny's case. The last 2 seasons (albeit injury shortened last yr) his production has gone up and he has led the team in ppg, on a team that cant score. His value probably only goes down if he gets injured, and because they dont have to move him now, they could move him at any point during season, at TDL or beyond.

Its also that his value is based on the current crop of UFAs, which is probably one of the worst for years, or that he will be resignable when the cap growth for 2024-25 is known.

But PHI is not doing a full rebuild, they are already playing 2/3rds of the team as guys in their 1-3rd year, with foerster, Gautheir, Grans/Attard, Brink, Errson, Andrae probably coming in this year/next, so Koneckny at 25 yrs old is exactly the player you probably keep through the tough next yr or 2, and only move for a pretty massive overpayment. Koneckny should still be in his prime in 3-4 yrs, perfect for the rebuild. I dont think PHI is tearing it all down, and definitely not by moving hart, koneckny, provorov, farabee at just market value. The team currently has cates, tippett, york, frost, alison with young guys farabee, koneckny, etc... so its not a full rebuild. Guys like Deangelo and Hayes will go.

provorov, drafted same yr as koneckny was different. He was stalled in his development, and did receive an overpayment. Amd really the return for Provorov, who wanted out and had regressed/stalled was huge, completely different on Koneckny. One trade doesn;t mean a rebuild, and a rebuild usually doesn;t contain alot of trading 25-26 yr olds. I dont think Provorov going has anything to do with PHI's intention on trading Koneckny.

As far as DeBrincat, he was an expiring guy looking for huge money, (and apparently already on the move again) and most CHI fans were incredulous, and it was a team without lots going on, aging stars and just debrincat/dach. PHI might want to do it soon based on the return, but I dont think theres any pressure to do so.

A goalie with his numbers doesn’t pull that kind of offer. Philly will get another first rounder out of him but they will be inheriting a bad contract in the trade.

Goalies in general don’t pull a lot of value. Kuemper pulled a first but he was twice the goalie and colorado was forced to pay it because they were out of options.

The biggest difference between the Philly and Chicago is Chicago was smart and tore everything down when the top prospect of the draft is being considered generational talent. They should build from the net out and Hart is still under team control after this contract expires. I don't think the Flyers are thinking of a dach/debrincat type tear down.

Not even close to enough for Hart. There is going to be a bidding war and even then we may not move him. You are going to have to cough up at least 1 significant piece. Cough Nikishin cough

A goalie at age 24 that has 200 games under his belt is very rare. Hart has been on a bottom dwelling team for a majority of his still young NHL career and has put up more than respectable numbers outside of 21-22 which the team finished in the bottom 5. Out of goalie that started 45 game (Felt like this was a typical starters min work load) he was a top 10 goalie in GSAx this year on a team picking in the top 10. The flyers don't have to move him and he's under team control for at least 2 more years with his RFA status. To get him at this point it will take an overpay there's no need to rush selling a goalie that you view as a franchise player.

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