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The asking price for Carter Hart versus what I think he is worth

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2023
Published: Jun. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The asking price for Carter Hart is reportedly two firsts


IMO, he is worth a first and a second.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$3,000,000
2$1,400,000
1$874,125
1$840,000
1$840,000
1$787,500
1$787,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bonk, Oliver
3$950,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Trade endorsed by the following Caps fans in ACGM


brady_t12
perrystreett
ClockReads2113
BoringBrianMacLellan
qc14
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
The Flyers receive whichever 2024 1st is lower between Ottawa and Washington.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,031,338$0$2,275,000$468,662
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$787,500$787,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$840,000$840,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1

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Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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Tbh not sure I like any deal for ottawa that doesn’t include a top 20 pick in 2023 as well as more pieces.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.


Georgiev was trash a year ago on one of the top teams in the league. Hart is good on a **** team
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Not trying to be rude but if the flyers are asking for two 1sts why even bother making a trade that is less than that lol obviously they don’t need to move him if they don’t get what they want
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Flyers more likely get two top prospects a first and 2nd while taking on a buyout
However, they won’t be lotto picks

Sens 2024 first (becomes a 2nd if the Sens miss the playoffs)
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Sens 2025 2nd
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.


Hart has far better numbers than Georgiev did at the trade… the two teams are not even comparable.

Being good on a team where all your best guys in your own zone are pretty much out for the year and being good (actually his numbers were mid) on a team where you just stand there and you win most games, is not the same.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Flyers more likely get two top prospects a first and 2nd while taking on a buyout
However, they won’t be lotto picks

Sens 2024 first (becomes a 2nd if the Sens miss the playoffs)
Ostapchuk
Lassi
Sens 2025 2nd


I mean ottawa had an .895 team save percentage last year and didn’t have Norris or Chychrun all year. If Hart posts .910 and health permits, they should make the playoffs .

Guys like Sanderson , Stutzle, Tkachuk, Pinto etc all should get even better
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Not trying to be rude but if the flyers are asking for two 1sts why even bother making a trade that is less than that lol obviously they don’t need to move him if they don’t get what they want


well what you ask and what you get is not always the same thing. You always ask more than what you really want on negotiation. but its true they dont have to move him now, but his value might be at hogher now than later, its a.decision briere will have to make!
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Hart has far better numbers than Georgiev did at the trade… the two teams are not even comparable.

Being good on a team where all your best guys in your own zone are pretty much out for the year and being good (actually his numbers were mid) on a team where you just stand there and you win most games, is not the same.


Let me remind you the Avs had a ton of games lost due to injury, including Manson playing 27 games and Byram playing only 42. George was the reason they still managed to win the division.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Georgiev was trash a year ago on one of the top teams in the league. Hart is good on a **** team


He was betrayed by NYR. COL believed in him, hence the turnaround
Jun. 11, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Let me remind you the Avs had a ton of games lost due to injury, including Manson playing 27 games and Byram playing only 42. George was the reason they still managed to win the division.


Are you comparing post trade numbers? Because that’s not really accurate
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Are you comparing post trade numbers? Because that’s not really accurate


Carter Hart is a starting goaltender in the NHL.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Carter Hart is a starting goaltender in the NHL.


… yes
 
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