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Laughton makes sense but only if its in a deal with Hart

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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
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You probably need to double that deal for Hart and Laughton. They want more than a 1st for Laughton and they want multiple firsts or equivalents for Hart. This deal as is, is missing two first and or prospects
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
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You probably need to double that deal for Hart and Laughton. They want more than a 1st for Laughton and they want multiple firsts or equivalents for Hart. This deal as is, is missing two first and or prospects


Insanity. I can’t see Sens trading Debrincat + multiple 1sts to get Hart and Laughton that’s crazy
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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Insanity. I can’t see Sens trading Debrincat + multiple 1sts to get Hart and Laughton that’s crazy


Ok well according to all of the reports, that’s what the Flyers are requiring. So you either have to pay the price or look elsewhere
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Ok well according to all of the reports, that’s what the Flyers are requiring. So you either have to pay the price or look elsewhere


Arizona was asking for 2 1sts and a propsect for Chychrun. Ppl can ask for what they want all the time, Hart doesn’t get that. A top 20 pick, defensive prospect and 2nd for Hart is more than fair
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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Arizona was asking for 2 1sts and a propsect for Chychrun. Ppl can ask for what they want all the time, Hart doesn’t get that. A top 20 pick, defensive prospect and 2nd for Hart is more than fair


Arizona had to trade Chychrun, Philly doesn't need to trade Hart, and they aren''t going to if your offer doesn't blow them away
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Arizona was asking for 2 1sts and a propsect for Chychrun. Ppl can ask for what they want all the time, Hart doesn’t get that. A top 20 pick, defensive prospect and 2nd for Hart is more than fair


The flyers already turned down offers for both players and yet teams are still asking about them and are interested which tells you they will eventually get what they want. And like the other guy said the flyers don’t need to trade either
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
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I'd just as soon try on DeSmith for a low pick or get someone from free agency who is actually proven. Along with trying Grieg on 2LW would be the better way to go through instead of sacrificing the future on a declining Laughton and an unproven Hart.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:35 p.m.
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Rather trade for Konecny
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Rather trade for Konecny


Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Rather trade for Konecny


Konecny is worse player but do as u will
Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
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Konecny is worse player but do as u will


Konecny is better all around. I certainly will. I don't need your permission.
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Jun. 11, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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Konecny is better all around. I certainly will. I don't need your permission.


No he’s not. Cat had a down year and without Norris/Stutzle next to him still had 66pts in a very obvious down year and should’ve scored more easy. Next year he goes for 35G 40A easy. Konecny isn’t better at all
Jun. 11, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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Csick

Change your management and coaching, let them improve the 2-way forwards and hockey systems, keep your assets and sign a UFA goalie instead.

You're going to end up much happier than doing this

Quoting: TheBigFlyera
You probably need to double that deal for Hart and Laughton. They want more than a 1st for Laughton and they want multiple firsts or equivalents for Hart. This deal as is, is missing two first and or prospects


Are you serious? It's a massive overpayment

In no world is Hart (even with Laughton) worth 1st + 2nd + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd + 2 more 1st round picks

There is no words to express how delusional your post is

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Insanity. I can’t see Sens trading Debrincat + multiple 1sts to get Hart and Laughton that’s crazy


I have seen a lot of crazy comments over the years but this one (that you quoted) is out of this world...

The guy is saying that you're missing "two first and or prospects" ON TOP of 1st (17th OA) + 2nd + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd

How is Carter freaking Hart is worth THREE 1sts, THREE 2nds and more?

Insanity is putting it lightly tears of joy

Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Ok well according to all of the reports, that’s what the Flyers are requiring. So you either have to pay the price or look elsewhere


"Report: Flyers want at least two first-round picks for Hart"

There's a GIGANTIC difference with what you're saying above, don't you think?

And the 1st in the OP's offer is the 17th OA pick, probably already close to 2 late-ish 1st round picks the Flyers are asking. They're obviously not expecting lower 1sts, unless they're dumb idiots.
Jun. 11, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Not reading all of that, I stand by what I said. Good for you tho.
 
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