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Big Swing take 2

Created by: RoyJ172
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 13, 2023
Published: Jun. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$1,500,000
8$7,850,000
8$7,850,000
2$2,500,000
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Heineman, Emil
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Allen, Jake ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Armia, Joel ($1,700,000 retained)
  3. Mysak, Jan
  4. Simoneau, Xavier
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
3.
WPG
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Beck, Owen
  3. Dvorak, Christian
  4. Harris, Jordan
  5. Norlinder, Mattias
  6. Primeau, Cayden
  7. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  8. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  9. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,500,000$82,585,700$1,170,000$4,892,500$914,300

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
$7,850,000$7,850,000
C
UFA - 8
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Jun. 13, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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overpay for ott.

underpay for winnipeg.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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So... top Center and Vezina goalie for Beck and bleep?

NO!
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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Winnipeg says no.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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Ottawa accepts
Jun. 13, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.
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Syd Barret
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I think you forgot to include something of actual value when trying to acquire two of Winnipeg's best players. Can't imagine two cap dumps, two average prospects, and a super late first can get you one of the best goalies in the league and a young top line center. That's barely enough to even take on the cap dumps let alone get two great players.
If you are adding the two cap dumps then you probably have to include slaf or dach for the jets to even pick up the phone .
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
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Ottawa doesn’t want your Trash
Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Quoting: WPGSK
So... top Center and Vezina goalie for Beck and bleep?

NO!


Yes, I agree this may be a bit low for Winnipeg. But in my defence I feel the Winnipeg Jets are being held over a barrel with both Dubois and Hellebuyck indicating they will not resign.

With the LA Kings now showing interest, Montreal may need to add 2024 1st, and another hopeful to help with Winnipeg’s “retooling”.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: RoyJ172
Yes, I agree this may be a bit low for Winnipeg. But in my defence I feel the Winnipeg Jets are being held over a barrel with both Dubois and Hellebuyck indicating they will not resign.

With the LA Kings now showing interest, Montreal may need to add 2024 1st, and another hopeful to help with Winnipeg’s “retooling”.


The entire offer gets PLD or Helly. Not both.

PLD is giving the Jets 5 or 6 teams to negotiate with, so they will receive more.

Helly is by far the best goalie that's been available for many years. He's working with the JETS to find a team that he wants to go to and sign long term with, thus increasing the assets they will receive in return.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: WPGSK
The entire offer gets PLD or Helly. Not both.

PLD is giving the Jets 5 or 6 teams to negotiate with, so they will receive more.

Helly is by far the best goalie that's been available for many years. He's working with the JETS to find a team that he wants to go to and sign long term with, thus increasing the assets they will receive in return.


Made a few adjustments based on the feedback.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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Quoting: RoyJ172
Made a few adjustments based on the feedback.


Your adjustments will make WPG JETS fans happy, especially the 2023 1st round pick (MTL). That puts the trade in WPG's favor. Now MTL fans won't be happy. haha.

Can't make everyone happy.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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Harris, Primeau and Norlinder have no value to Winnipeg and Anderson along with Dvorak is $31 mil on dead cap you are asking the Jets to take on.

It's a high quantity, little quality trade to start with and your massively overrating the value on Montreal's pick. The pick is nice, but it doesn't get you an elite goalie, a young 1C and allow you to dump over $30 mil of dead cap. No chance Winnipeg does that.
 
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