This seems like way too much. Myers is still a reasonable player, just overpaid.

I don't really know anything about either of those players other than Barron was trade bait from Colorado forever - so assuming they aren't that great.

After Myers bonus is paid, he's only owed $1M real salary, so they could likely flip him for a much lower pick to Arizaona, Anaheim, etc. after that.

For 1 more season, especially following OEL buyout, they cannot afford to do something like this.

Not for your garbage. Myers won’t cost much to dump, and the canucks have plenty of cap space so they have no reason to do this

After buying out OEL I can only see the Canucks moving 11 to move down a couple spots and gain an extra pick. Or for a more established young RHD/C

I would argue that Barron today is a better defender than Myers and he's gonna get a lot better with more reps.

Are you saying you don't like the deal because you don't feel Barron & Davidson are worth it, or because you think this is primarily about cap relief?

Wait... What garbage? Justin Barron is garbage?

https://www.habsfanatics.com/Justin-Barron-reacts-to-Sidney-Crosby-comments-following-his-trade-156925

Ok and? If he’s so good, why you trading him? Canucks have plenty of fringe bottom pair defensemen

Alright. I keep seeing Vancouver fans trading the pick... So this made me wonder if it's actually on the block.

Canuck’s have been very good at getting talent for cheap. Trading the 11th overall for a guy like Barron is not getting talent for cheap. I mean Barron wasn’t even drafted at 11th overall. What has made his value drastically go up? You forgot to add a 1st and 2nd round pick

I'm trading him because I think there will be a few absolute steals at 11 who will take 2-3 years to make the NHL and while Vancouver might not be willing to wait, the Habs are.

Clearly you are either offended by the deal or you are just grumpy. I have no idea why, but your tone is super rude and I'd ask that you be a bit more respectful if you want to have a conversation with me. Otherwise just move on and go troll somewhere else.

It could be, but not for something like this. Something like moving back 5-8 spots and picking up a 2nd round pick is much more likely

By your logic, the Canuck’s should have traded their 15th overall last year. They didn’t. They are retooling which means they are still focusing on prospects given how bad their prospect pool is. Barron is like a #4 at best. Canucks could get a legit top 6 forward or bonafide top 3 defenseman at 11

If you look back at the 2020 draft there are 15 skaters who have more points than him and 4 defensemen.

That's a group that includes Drysdale, Sanderson, Schneider, and Guhle.

That's pretty good company. You don't like the player, that's all good, but to say he's garbage just shows a total lack of understanding of how to do player evaluation on your part.

Not at RHD on an entry level deal they can't. Tell me who they could get that is better than Barron drafted 2019 or later who plays RHD?

By what logic? Saying I'm seeing Canucks fans on capfriendly trading the pick? Saying Vancouver is surely aiming to make the playoffs this season so they might want young players who can grow with them over picks that are 2-3 years from making the NHL and 4-5 years from being difference makers?

This is a wild straw-man argument. Not to mention, they have literally already traded a first round pick in THIS years draft.

You can not like the trade and not be a dink at the same time.

They traded a 1st because they had another one to use. It’s not that hard to understand 💀

I’m not saying they won’t trade the pick, but unless a young top 6 C or a proven young top 4 defenseman is coming back, or a 1st + 2nd, it isn’t being moved

Nils Hoglander is 12th in his draft class in points. What would you say his value is then? Any top 12 pick in this draft blows Hoglander and Barron out of the water

Canucks are aiming U25. Doesn’t have to be a 21 year old. If Barron was more proven it may make sense, but he isnt

I cant see Vancouver moving the 11th pick for just one year of Myers

That's literally what I offered you. Justin Barron is a young top 4 Defender.

A little bit of both.

I don't think Barron is worth a first and I don't think they need to get rid of Myers. (Davidson is a 5th round overager, so I give him 0 value).

I haven't watched Barron since the WJC, so if he's now amazing maybe I'm wrong. I think there would have to be insane value for the Canucks to give up the 11th pick without gaining additional draft capital (i.e. move back).

Hoglander is a forward. Barron is a Defenseman. You have to KNOW they take longer, or else you are not paying attention.

Sure, but you manufactured an argument for him that he didn't make. Your argument sounded like "they didn't trade the other pick they had before, so they won't trade this one", when in fact they did trade a pick they had before.

Not for that terrible return