Why is CGY giving up this much. Imo nylander and hanifan could just be swapped if both teams agreed. They’re both UFAs next year.

Why is CGY giving TOR a 1st and giving them TOR “#1” goalie?

I wouldn’t say vladar is a #1 goalie maybe like a 1B tandem and Hanifan is a like 2 or 3 defenceman.

Nylander is a top line winger the scores 40 with above a point per game. No chance it’s a 1 for 1. Not even close

I put it in quotation cause in this scenario he’s being placed in the #1 spot.

While nylander is a very good winger. Hanifin is 1/2 Dman with scoring. It’s swapping one very good winger for one very good good Dman. I don’t see why CGY does this specific trade. Unless the reasoning is hanifin has made it known he wants out and this is the only option, by giving up a 1st.

I doubt vladar would be included.

Also Hirvonen is a small prospect that I doubt will have impact in the NHL.

Gross overpay for Bertuzzi. Barbashev is a fine middle 6 player. He's a slightly better and more physical kerfoot. Hard pass

Wtf are you doing to the tending?

What's with the lumbus trade? Just keep Brodie who is one of our best defenseman and don't waste the first

Also Calgary doesn't trade hanifin and a first for nylander

That’s gunna be the market value for Bert, apparently he’s looking for more. Idk if u watched the playoffs but comparing Barbashev to kerfoot is crazy, he is a much more useful and effective player was great in the playoffs and last year had 60 points in the regular season.

Goalie aren’t ideal but apparently some insiders think vladar will be a starting goalie and apparently Tree likes him, so idk. It’s definitely not good tho.

And Brodie looked like he was slowing down so move off him before he walks.

Is there any rumors on how much Samsonov wants on his new deal?

Buffalo is not a destination for Brodie. 5M cap hit, but 7.5M salary is not something Adams and Pegula will do. Maybe...maybe with a decent sweetener, but even then I doubt it as they have not taken advantage of their extra cap space for years.

The only thing that speaks to Hanifan being a #1 defenseman is his draft pedigree. If you went around the league and counted off every teams #1 defensemen he would be quite a ways down the list and I'm not altrogether sure he is the best defenseman on the Flames TBH. I'd take Andersson over him every time.

Also, if you have not viewed a prospect repeatedly (in the case of Hirvonen I have seen about a half dozen of his games this year), you cannot speak to their potential with any kind of authority. He's not the Little Ball of Hate, but he leans in that direction.

Moreover, Calgary has indeed said, they are shopping Hanifan.

All of that said, I do not do the deal if I am Toronto simply because I do not trade Nylander for that or anything else.

My feeling is there is more value to be had investing in some of the lesser lights of free agency. Bertuzzi and Barbashev are the headliners and will be overpaid. Connor Brown, Jonathon Toews are far better bangs for the buck. Even Tarasenko is a better bet than the first two because he at least has the pedigree of being a dominant offensive force they do not.

I can understand moving on from Brodie but you are not getting enough for him and you had better be replacing him with something that works. I'm not seeing that in either Schenn or Peeke. If you take him out of the top six you need to be adding someone who does what he does but with more thump.

They can qualify him at something like 1.98 I believe. I think you can get him for 2 years at 3. By that time Woll has established himself and Hildeby is ready.

Kerfoot had 51 last year. Barbashev had 60 last year but 45 this year and before last year never had more than 26. Which is the exception? He's been a borderline 4th liner until last year. He's going to be way overpaid

And if that is the asking price on Bertuzzi hard pass.

In the last 3 years

Barbashev 270 gp 58 g 143 pts
Kerfoot 285 gp 40 g 134 pts
Jarnkrok 252 gp 60 g 131 pts

So kerfoot is the worst goal scorer. But they aren't far off from each other overall. Yes barbashev is more physical. And yes he's the better player. But he isn't THAT much better that we should go out of our way to pay him way more for way more term

I'm all for being brown back. Loved the guy

Understand. Thank you. If that is the price than I don't think LA can make a deal with picks only. Maybe a deal around Grundstrum for Samsonov would work better

We have Grundstroms ready to go in the AHL. Why do you think we dealt him to you in the first place? I do not see them moving on from Samsonov TBH.

Brining back kerfoot would be a mistake. Ur looking at regular season numbers.

Playoffs is what matters this team is fine in the regular season and you could probably plug in any bottom 6?players and make the playoffs.

In the playoffs
Kerfoot in 48 games 6g 12a
Jarnkrok 86 games 5g 17a

Barbashev had 18 points this year in the playoffs and is good defensively and is physical. That’s worth way more than either of the other guys. You have to over pay in free agency that’s how it works but on long term deals in a couple of years, especially with younger plays that aren’t past 30 yet they can become steals in the future.

Hoping hurt or old players get back to form is what the leafs have done before and it hasn’t worked.

Oh I don't want to bring back kerfoot at all. I'm using him as an example we all understand to see why barbashev is being overrated. He's going to be overpaid because he got hot at the right time.