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Created by: tkecanuck341

Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2023

Published: Jun. 26, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

A lot of overpayments out there for PLD right now. This would give Winnipeg the big return they want, but require them to retain $3M on Hellebuyck for 4 years.

Hellebuyck signs 4 year extension @ $9M. Winnipeg retains 33% of the last year of current contract and the extension.

PLD signs his QO for 1 season, then extends on January 1 to something longer term.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret	1	$787,500
Fagemo, Samuel	1	$787,500
Björnfot, Tobias	1	$874,125
Kupari, Rasmus	1	$874,125
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	1	$6,000,000

Trades

LAK

Elsewhere for futures

WPG

LAK

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
Harkins, Jansen
Hellebuyck, Connor ($2,055,555 retained)

WPG

Arvidsson, Viktor
Byfield, Quinton
Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
2024 1st round pick (LAK)

Retained Salary Transactions

Ivan Provorov: $2,025,000 (30%)

Termination Fees

Mike Richards: $700,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$83,206,029	$0	$2,695,000	$293,971

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Iafallo, Alex $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kopitar, Anze $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Kaliyev, Arthur $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fiala, Kevin $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $6,000,000$6,000,000 C UFA - 8	Kempe, Adrian $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Moore, Trevor $4,200,000$4,200,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Danault, Phillip $5,500,000$5,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Kupari, Rasmus $874,125$874,125 C, LW, RW RFA - 2
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret $787,500$787,500 C, LW, RW RFA - 1	Harkins, Jansen $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Fagemo, Samuel $787,500$787,500 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Anderson, Michael $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD UFA - 8	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor $4,111,112$4,111,112 G NMC UFA - 1
Gavrikov, Vladislav $5,875,000$5,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Spence, Jordan $820,000$820,000 ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 1	Copley, Pheonix $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Björnfot, Tobias $874,125$874,125 LD RFA - 2	Roy, Matt $3,150,000$3,150,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 1
Clarke, Brandt $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Hellebuyck signs 4 year extension @ $9M. Winnipeg retains 33% of the last year of current contract and the extension

I think this would kill it. Both Hellebuyck says no to 4-years and Jets say no to paying him for 5 years.

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I think this would kill it. Both Hellebuyck says no to 4-years and Jets say no to paying him for 5 years.

That's the only thing that gets them Byfield, Vilardi, and a 1st for two guys that are leaving anyway.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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No chance of the Jets doing the retention on the Helle extension, not sure they'll be willing to retain on his final year either to be honest, they're not a well run organization and the owner likely isn't willing to eat money for a guy that isn't playing for him.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.

Artman91

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This team has no grit. 0 fighters and no one that’s hits hard.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Fair enough. Just floating the idea.

As it stands, I don't see the Kings paying Vilardi + Iafallo for PLD's rights.

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: Artman91

This team has no grit. 0 fighters and no one that’s hits hard.

How's that different from the last two seasons of Kings hockey?

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

That's the only thing that gets them Byfield, Vilardi, and a 1st for two guys that are leaving anyway.

I hear ya. There are no deals that satisfy Hellebuyck’s contract demands and Jets trade demands that don’t neuter the acquiring team. My guess: Helly plays out his year in Winnipeg and moves next summer via free agency.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

It does seem to be the most likely scenario.

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Fair enough. Just floating the idea.

As it stands, I don't see the Kings paying Vilardi + Iafallo for PLD's rights.

I hear ya, Duchois to LA just makes no sense imo.

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:15 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Crazy to think the Jets retain that long and at 33% for a goalie sold to a few places easily without any retention and good assets

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:15 p.m.

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MoSeider53

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First off, There's absolutely no chance of Hellebuyck taking 4 years @ $9,000,000 per. And Winnipeg isn't retaining 33% on him for 5 years that's totally delusional. If LA can't afford him at 4 years $36,000,000 then they have no business even going after him.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Artman91

This team has no grit. 0 fighters and no one that’s hits hard.

I think that stuff is overrated.

Face-punchers can be found for cheap. Hitting hard has little impact on wins….if anything, hits just tell us which team possesses the puck less. Grit can come from anywhere at right time.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: MoSeider53

First off, There's absolutely no chance of Hellebuyck taking 4 years $9,000,000 per. And Winnipeg isn't retaining 33% on him for 5 years that's totally delusional. If LA can't afford him at 4 years $36,000,000 then they have no business even going after him.

I don't disagree. Just trying to build a trade that makes sense, because zero of the rumors out there surrounding LA & Winnipeg right now make sense.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.

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Artman91

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

How's that different from the last two seasons of Kings hockey?

And that’s why we were 1st Round Exits.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:40 p.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: Artman91

And that’s why we were 1st Round Exits.

I think McDavid and Draisaitl had something to do with it too.

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.

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TeddyLovesTheJets

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Why would Winnipeg retain

Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: TeddyLovesTheJets

Why would Winnipeg retain

So they can get a 1st round pick, two top quality long-term players in Byfield and Vilardi, as well as a top quality short-term asset in Arvidsson.

The Kings are unlikely to give up even one of these assets for PLD on his own.

Jun. 27, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

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