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Defense and forward depth

Created by: bobermay
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2023
Published: Jun. 27, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,600,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,400,000
2$800,000
1$775,000
2$2,000,000
4$6,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Backlund, Mikael ($1,350,000 retained)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the TOR
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$81,172,417$0$0$2,327,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,600,000$3,600,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:16 a.m.
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This trade scenario only makes sense if neither team is able to extend their player. Why don't we put a pin in this one until we see if that is actually the case. then I'm open.
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:16 a.m.
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Uhhh... why is Carolina adding? Pesce's less than a year older, and both are up at the end of the year, Pesce's at minimum the same quality of player as Nylander and he makes less, has a better contract, and plays a more valuable position. Stop
Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Uhhh... why is Carolina adding? Pesce's less than a year older, and both are up at the end of the year, Pesce's at minimum the same quality of player as Nylander and he makes less, has a better contract, and plays a more valuable position. Stop


hes more than a year older. Nylander is better and has more value. its not a straight swap. get over it
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
hes more than a year older. Nylander is better and has more value. its not a straight swap. get over it


Pesce's just as good as Nylander. Cope. Pesce's got more value right now. Same quality, better deal, better cap hit. Get over it
Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Pesce's just as good as Nylander. Cope. Pesce's got more value right now. Same quality, better deal, better cap hit. Get over it


hardest thing to do in the nhl is score goals. Nylander scored 40. 40 goal scorers are worth more than defensive dman in todays NHL. Canes need Nylander more than the leafs need pesce. its not 1 for 1. and nylander wont be 30 when his next deal starts
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
hardest thing to do in the nhl is score goals. Nylander scored 40. 40 goal scorers are worth more than defensive dman in todays NHL. Canes need Nylander more than the leafs need pesce. its not 1 for 1. and nylander wont be 30 when his next deal starts


Major disagree. Hardest thing to do in the NHL is defend. The speed of the game is so high defending is almost impossible. There's... what, maybe 7 elite DFD in the entire NHL? Goal scoring wingers this summer are growing on trees. DeBrincat, Tarasenko, Nylander, Toffoli. How many elite DFD hit the market? Exactly. Stop. Pesce will be 29 when his next deal starts, Nylander will be 28. Not a big difference. Pesce plays the more valuable position and it's why he's got more value.

Get over it.
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
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I agree with Herb! Canes probably would take this if Pesce doesn't want to resign. Toronto on the other hand, may want more.
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 27, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
Quoting: Caniac2000
Now you're trolling. Defense is WAY harder in the modern NHL than goal scoring. Point being almost everyone in the NHL will score at least a goal, but very few are trusted to defend. Let's take the prime examples, Schiefele, JT Miller, McDavid, Draisaitl. All of them have great offensive numbers, but are tragic defensively. Notice how I picked a cap dump as well as 2 of the best players in the league. Goal scoring in this sport is not as hard as you think anymore. Scoring's been increasing steadily for a decade now. It's becoming far harder to find premier DFD like Pesce. If you can't see that, that's a you problem.

Pesce has more value than Nylander. Cope with that fact


Goal scoring is more valuable than defending, did the leafs and canes lose to the panthers because they didnt defend well enough? or is it because they couldnt score? its the 2nd one and youre delusional if you think otherwise. youre an incredibly arrogant homer. you just wait to see whos contract is bigger and if they get traded who gets more in a trade its Nylander. . 40 goal scorer is more valuable than a defensive dman. get over it and get over yourself, even your own fellow canes fans cant stand you
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
Goal scoring is more valuable than defending, did the leafs and canes lose to the panthers because they didnt defend well enough? or is it because they couldnt score? its the 2nd one and youre delusional if you think otherwise. youre an incredibly arrogant homer. you just wait to see whos contract is bigger and if they get traded who gets more in a trade its Nylander. . 40 goal scorer is more valuable than a defensive dman. get over it and get over yourself, even your own fellow canes fans cant stand you


No point to even engage with people like Caniac, one of the most delusional trolls on this site.
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Jun. 27, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: CaptainTavares
No point to even engage with people like Caniac, one of the most delusional trolls on this site.


the crazy part is they arent a troll, they're 100% serious
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