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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
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I hope all you Dubas haters are happy.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
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Lol terrible
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.
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AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
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I think almost everyone hates this team LOL
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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They can finally pull up the 1st round winner banner ! Job well done boys!
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Great resign on a great contract
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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I had Kampf coming in around 4 years at 2-2.5m a year. I REALLY like him and what he brings. 14 minute a night guy, who gets put in all the worst situations and does a very good job. He takes on some of the toughest minutes league wide.

Very happy he is back for 4 years.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Great resign on a great contract


Kampf is a one-dimensional fourth line centre that provides literally 0 offence whatsoever. Players with his skillset shouldn't be given 2.5 million AAV, especially for four years. What's even scarier is that this indicates that they will likely play him as their 3C for a few more years. This is just a terrible way to start new management and if this is a sign of things to come, I'm not sure how I'll be able to cheer for this team.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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Maybe Jeremy Coliton was whispering in his ear.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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I had Kampf coming in around 4 years at 2-2.5m a year. I REALLY like him and what he brings. 14 minute a night guy, who gets put in all the worst situations and does a very good job. He takes on some of the toughest minutes league wide.

Very happy he is back for 4 years.


He's a fine player but he's soooo replaceable. Guys with his skillset aren't hard to find, and certainly aren't worth paying 2.5 million a year for. And again, I think this pretty much means that they see him as a 3C, which is not good.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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He's a fine player but he's soooo replaceable. Guys with his skillset aren't hard to find, and certainly aren't worth paying 2.5 million a year for. And again, I think this pretty much means that they see him as a 3C, which is not good.


The Leafs did their best when Kampf was their full time #3C. When they were using him as their shutdown #3, that's when the Leafs were winning the most.

He can play on their 3rd or 4th line easy. I am not too worried about his cap, even if he is on their "4th line". He will still play 14 minutes a night.

The Leafs can still sign ROR easily if they wanted.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: GladeBang12
Kampf is a one-dimensional fourth line centre that provides literally 0 offence whatsoever. Players with his skillset shouldn't be given 2.5 million AAV, especially for four years. What's even scarier is that this indicates that they will likely play him as their 3C for a few more years. This is just a terrible way to start new management and if this is a sign of things to come, I'm not sure how I'll be able to cheer for this team.


If that is your take / scouting report on the quality player David Kampf is and what he brings to any team outside of his ability to put the puck in the net, then I am very afraid of what your expectations are for the Leafs. You don't often get access to one of the best defensive players in the League at that price. His work on the PK on jumping up and down from 3C to 4C all season easily makes him worth 2.5M a season. His line was arguably the most productive in the Florida series. Our top guys making North of 10m can't score and you are unhappy with a great depth signing for this team.... keyboard warriors I tell ya, know nothing about the game.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
The Leafs did their best when Kampf was their full time #3C. When they were using him as their shutdown #3, that's when the Leafs were winning the most.

He can play on their 3rd or 4th line easy. I am not too worried about his cap, even if he is on their "4th line". He will still play 14 minutes a night.

The Leafs can still sign ROR easily if they wanted.


Maybe they could still sign ROR, but then what's the point of paying Kampf 2.5 a year for his play in defensive situations when ROR can bring that level of defence as well as offence. I'd much rather use that 2.5 towards ROR and just develop Holmberg to be our 4th centre. Not to mention signing O'Reilly now will make it significantly more difficult to improve the rest of the team after extending Willy and Auston.

I know 2.5 isn't much, but every dollar matters so much, and this just isn't an efficient way of spending it.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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If that is your take / scouting report on the quality player David Kampf is and what he brings to any team outside of his ability to put the puck in the net, then I am very afraid of what your expectations are for the Leafs. You don't often get access to one of the best defensive players in the League at that price. His work on the PK on jumping up and down from 3C to 4C all season easily makes him worth 2.5M a season. His line was arguably the most productive in the Florida series. Our top guys making North of 10m can't score and you are unhappy with a great depth signing for this team.... keyboard warriors I tell ya, know nothing about the game.


Being able to provide offence is a very important aspect of the game when you're playing that many minutes. I think Kampf is a great player, but only if he was signed for less than 2 million a year. It just isn't efficient to spend that much money on Kampf given our cap situation. This makes it significantly more difficult to sign ROR while adding to other areas on the team, too. And depth scoring has probably been the biggest issue this team has faced consistently in the playoffs. It's obvious you can't always rely on 2/3 guys to score all your goals, but that's not to say they aren't worth having on the team. There's many other teams that have been able to find cheaper players that provide offence in their bottom-6.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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Maybe they could still sign ROR, but then what's the point of paying Kampf 2.5 a year for his play in defensive situations when ROR can bring that level of defence as well as offence. I'd much rather use that 2.5 towards ROR and just develop Holmberg to be our 4th centre. Not to mention signing O'Reilly now will make it significantly more difficult to improve the rest of the team after extending Willy and Auston.

I know 2.5 isn't much, but every dollar matters so much, and this just isn't an efficient way of spending it.


Kampf was not put in a position to generate much offence and showed that he could when he was given the chance to. He almost always started defensive zone starts against the opposing teams top 6. His job was to not get scored on and to see if he could get the puck down the ice, so that our top 6 could start in the offensive zone. He did a fantastic job at that.

He actually generated some offence and pressure when is was in the offensive zone. It looks like its 2.4m x 4 years. Either way, I think it is money well spent. Very well spent actually.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Like the player, hate the contract
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Kampf was not put in a position to generate much offence and showed that he could when he was given the chance to. He almost always started defensive zone starts against the opposing teams top 6. His job was to not get scored on and to see if he could get the puck down the ice, so that our top 6 could start in the offensive zone. He did a fantastic job at that.

He actually generated some offence and pressure when is was in the offensive zone. It looks like its 2.4m x 4 years. Either way, I think it is money well spent. Very well spent actually.


He's a good player. I see the good things he does. But I just don't think what he brings to this team is that difficult to replace. Maybe it takes a bit longer to find that guy who can bring that element. Either way, it just makes me confused when people are content with giving Kampf probably 500k-1M more than he's worth, but if Nylander asks for 500k-1M more then fans will want him traded.
 
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