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Karlsson and Pesce

Created by: rgwhite17
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
2$900,000
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1$1,000,000
4$3,500,000
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TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($4,000,000 retained)
  2. Sturm, Nico
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ARI
  1. Minten, Fraser
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28th overall tonight
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2024
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2025
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22$83,500,000$81,409,917$0$0$2,090,083
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$766,667$766,667
G
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$800,000$800,000
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:30 p.m.
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Canes pass. Pesce > Brodie

Necas and Nylander are so close in value, and without an extension, I'll straight-up argue Necas has more value. RFA on expiry, 3 years younger, only 20 points less, half the salary this year. Why is Carolina adding? Awful
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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$16,000,000 retained on Erik Karlsson, Gets a far better offer than this.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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CAR doesn't accept that trade. This is how they will see it, they are giving Necas+a 1st for Nylander which is too much considering the latter's contract situation and Pesce > Brodie and is younger as well.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Canes pass. Pesce > Brodie

Necas and Nylander are so close in value, and without an extension, I'll straight-up argue Necas has more value. RFA on expiry, 3 years younger, only 20 points less, half the salary this year. Why is Carolina adding? Awful


I would assume nylander extension in this deal. Pesce is better than Brodie but I guess assuming they deal him because he can’t be signed then Brodie is a good replacement for the year.
Nylander is older but has a longer track record of producing points, i think his value with an extension is higher than Necas.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:35 p.m.
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that


At 7.5m a year, I don't see many teams out bidding this offer.

Karlsson at full cap - No teams would touch him
Karlsson at 9.5m cap - I think 1-3 teams may take him for free
Karlsson at 8.5m cap - A team may pay a 2nd round pick for him
Karlsson at 7.5m cap - this is where I see his value increasing quite a bit. 1st + good prospect is fair. Which they get Niemela + 1st here. Lets say Robertson and Murray cancel each other out.
Karlsson at 50% retention - I think a team would pay ALOT for him here. BUT it sounds like Grier doesn't want to do that. I think that's the wrong move.

I could be wrong and I am open to that possibility. But if you are expecting more than this, I think you will be in for a surprise.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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this really isn't good for either team
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: rgwhite17
I would assume nylander extension in this deal. Pesce is better than Brodie but I guess assuming they deal him because he can’t be signed then Brodie is a good replacement for the year.
Nylander is older but has a longer track record of producing points, i think his value with an extension is higher than Necas.


Still an easy pass. Would rather just re-sign Pesce and Necas than downgrade and have the misfortune of giving up a 1st to do so. Comical.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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So SJ get's a cap dump, Robertson who's always hurt. a 1st and Niemela to retain $16 million on EK. I don't see why the sharks would do that


I don’t really understand why Hayes only got a 6th and was half retained but deals are weird right now with cap space tight. Hall dumped for essentially nothing as well.
Now I know karlsson is much bigger asset than these guys but San Jose gets real assets. There’s not many teams that can pull off a karlsson deal that he will approve so the return might be a bit underwhelming.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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Everybody declines
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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this really isn't good for either team


Lol ya probably not. But gotta try for fun
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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I don’t think the leafs should be the team adding the first round pick in that Carolina trade
Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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Canes pass and block the #, then go out and trade for EK and sweep the season series with the Leafs just because this proposal was so bad.
 
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