Quoting: Funksoljah
So when it's Calgary fans judging another teams goalie stat watching is ok, but when it's their own well that's another story. If Vladar was as good as your fans say he is, they'd be trying to find a way to keep him and trade Markstrom. Vladar was markedly worse than Markstrom last season, and they were fairly similar this year. Generally you can find positives from goalies with poor statistics through their advanced metrics. Calgary was one of the stingiest teams in the league in shots against, high danger shots against, medium danger shots against, and even rebound shots against. That's actually an area that Vladar is very good, he does not give up a ton of rebounds. Everywhere else, he was mostly below average. That would not bode well for a Buffalo team that gives up a ton of high danger chances off the rush.
A few things here.
1. you are grouping all Flames fans together as 1 hive mind, there are a bunch of fans who are complete morons, I'm also not sure which one's you are referring to when "judging other teams goalies on stat watching." I am also more than willing to see someone's POV if they can defend it.
2. The reason Vladar is remotely available is very situational. Markstrom is unmovable with his full NMC unless he asks to go (just like how Krug just refused to waive his clause), Wolf is absolutely NHL ready, and even if Markstrom did waive Wolf still needs a mentor, he's not ready to play 40+ games a season and Vladar isn't ready for 50+ (the exact same reasoning I made for why Vladar is a bad fit for Buffalo above). Not to mention Markstrom has proven to be an excellent mentor.
3. I'm not quite sure you understand the difference between high danger and high quality. Danger is based on how close to the front of the next the shot is taken from, quality is how likely the shot is to go in the net (ie tipped, cross seem pass, etc). Also chances on the rush are by definition low danger chances using War On Ice's model (which is what Natural Stattrick uses).
As for Vladar I can actually defend it that he is a good goalie. It's no different from when I sad Adin Hill was a good goalie back when he played for Arizona. I did a whole write up on Vladar a little while back as seen here
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Using a base of 1000 minutes played via Natural Stattrick, Vladar faced the 3rd least HD Shots/60, and the least LD Shots/60 in the league. However he faced the 42nd least MD Shots/60. By definition mid danger shots are unblocked shots taken from from anywhere between the 2 dots and high slot, with the exception of the low slot being high danger. AKA the yellow image in the image linked below
War On Ice Danger Chart
There is some variance between Vladar in Markstrom in the amount of mid and high danger shots they faced (Markstrom facing more HD but less MD), but both faced some of the fewest low danger shots in overall (33% and 34% of shots against from low danger areas). This backs up up my previous point of Calgary being one of the top teams in shot suppression as ~40% of shots on net come from the low danger area in general.
Now realistically the best way to truly see how Vladar played is the eye test. Vladar let in 5 goals (never more than 5) 4 times this season, and 4 goals 2 times. Here are the linked highlights and breakdowns of those games Goals Against.
Game 1: Seattle(5) @ Calgary(4) [11/1/22] - GA's were 1 clean shot, 1 on the PK, 1 giveaway on the PP, 2 odd man rushes.
Game 2: Calgary(4) @ Toronto(5) OT [12/10/22] - GA's were 3 on the PK (1 in OT), 1 deflection off a teammate, 1 clean goal.
Game 3: Calgary(3) @ Los Angeles(4) OT [12/22/22] - GA's were 1 deflection, 1 giveaway behind the net, 1 rebound, 1 2v1 in OT. (Worth noting Vladar also had a lot of great saves in this game)
Game 4: Calgary(6) @ Dallas(5) [1/14/23] - GA's were 1 giveaway on the PK, 4 clean goals
Game 5: Detroit(5) @ Calgary(2) [2/16/23] - GA's were 2 clean goal, 2 on the PK,1 defensive breakdown, 1 softy.
Game 6: Calgary(3) @ Vegas(4) OT [2/23/23] - GA's were 1 on the PK, 1 clean goal, 1 giveaway that lead to a goal, 1 3v2 in OT.
I think people should really read
this article that came out about him back at the end of January when he nearly stole the starting job from Markstrom. People on here tend to stat watch too much and it really shows in cases like this.
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