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Realistic but Pessimistic Hurricanes Karlsson Deal

Created by: CheechYou
Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2023
Published: Jul. 21, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Grier is interested in Drury.

And guess what...

Drury went to Harvard -- the Massachussets connection strikes again.

To SJ:

Drury
Honka
2024 1st
2024 3rd

To CAR:

Erik Karlsson @ 8mil (2mil retained by SJ, 1.5mil retained by a 3rd team)

3rd Team:

2024 PHI 2nd (from CAR)
Macdonald (from SJ)
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$6,000,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Honka, Anttoni
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Erik Karlsson at 8mil
The 2024 PHI 2nd is shipped with Jakob Macdonald to a 3rd team to retain 1.5mil
2.
SJS
    Any 3rd party team to broker the additional 1.5mil retention
    ANA
    1. MacDonald, Jacob
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
    3.
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$74,700,001$25,000$850,000$8,799,999

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW
    RFA - 3
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    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $775,000$775,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
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    $916,667$916,667
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
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    $925,000$925,000
    C
    RFA - 1
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $3,250,000$3,250,000
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    UFA - 3
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    $2,350,000$2,350,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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    Carolina can't take EK at 8, would need further retention
    Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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    The retention would cost more assets. I’d want at least a 1st to retain that much for 4 years and use up a retention slot.
    Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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    Chicago is your best bet to find a Karlsson laundering partner. Anaheims going to need that cap space before his deal is over, or just retain the extra amount yourself.
    Jul. 21, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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    Value wise, Canes take it. They would need EK at a lower cap hit though, so SJ would have to eat the maximum they are willing to, and Chicago or Arizona would have to eat about 3mil to bring it close to 5-6mil. Unfortunately, whether he ends up with Pittsburgh or Carolina, or some mystery dark horse team, SJ is going to have to take it in the shorts with retention.
    Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    The retention would cost more assets. I’d want at least a 1st to retain that much for 4 years and use up a retention slot.


    Quoting: evelutions2
    Value wise, Canes take it. They would need EK at a lower cap hit though, so SJ would have to eat the maximum they are willing to, and Chicago or Arizona would have to eat about 3mil to bring it close to 5-6mil. Unfortunately, whether he ends up with Pittsburgh or Carolina, or some mystery dark horse team, SJ is going to have to take it in the shorts with retention.

    What's the max cap hit threshold you think Canes/Pens would accept EK65 at? 7? Lower?
    Jul. 22, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: CheechYou
    What's the max cap hit threshold you think Canes/Pens would accept EK65 at? 7? Lower?


    Provided that the Pens are able to move both Petry and Granlund, I think the Pens would be willing to take EK at about 8mil. The Canes on the other hand, more than likely would need to get EK down to 5-6mil for them to pull the trigger, due to his age and injury history.

    As for the 2 dark horses, Seattle probably follows suit with what I said for the Canes. Francis isn’t the type of GM who typically goes for the flashy blockbusters, but rather through UFA. He also has to consider Beniers and Wright extensions, so cap space will be crucial. And Toronto straight up can’t afford EK without moving one of the big core names.

    Frankly, I am positive it’s really only Pittsburgh and Carolina who are really in the running. Assuming EK is moved, the Sharks will either have to deal with the Pens cap dumps (at the very least, one of, if not both of, Granlund and Petry) and not get great compensation for that, or take a “weaker“ offer from the Canes with a big piece of the package being one of Skjei, Pesce, or Turbo being flipped for more assets, or as a 3-way scenario. I think there is extra pressure for the Sharks to move him before the season starts, since it is almost certain that they aren’t getting another chance to move EK sans buyout/cap dump for the remainder of his contract.
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    Jul. 23, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: CheechYou
    What's the max cap hit threshold you think Canes/Pens would accept EK65 at? 7? Lower?


    I think EK has value at 8M but I don't see a 3rd team coming in to help retain money on him. There's simply too much term I think SJ would need to eat whatever retention there is on him. They have the cap space in this scenario.
     
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