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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 22, 2023
Published: Jul. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
2.
TOR
  1. Schmaltz, Nick ($850,000 retained)
3.
TOR
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$82,609,917$0$0$890,083
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
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The Arizona trade is unnecessary
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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Zona doesn't do that. We would need to offer more than that.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
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You aren't close on any of those trades. You need to send alot more value to the other teams.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
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Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value than Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?
Jul. 22, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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Only way SJ is taking on veteran contracts is if its part of a Karlsson deal. Not a chance they take a 3rd goalie for that crap offer.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value then Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?


Necas does not have more value then Nylander The UFA/RFA status has little impact compared to a proven 40 goal scorer hitting his prime. Necas is half the cap hit of Nylander because he is half the value of Nylander. Nylander's number will be higher on a team where he gets the prime minutes and not behind #34 and #16.
Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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Necas does not have more value then Nylander The UFA/RFA status has little impact compared to a proven 40 goal scorer hitting his prime. Necas is half the cap hit of Nylander because he is half the value of Nylander. Nylander's number will be higher on a team where he gets the prime minutes and not behind #34 and #16.


Necas had 18 less points or something? You think he's got half the value? Are you delusional? A rental Nylander... Nylander's production will plummet the second he doesn't get time with Matthews or Tavares. We saw that he struggled in the postseason too with just one primary point all playoffs... stop it. Necas has his playoff demons, but at least he's 2 years younger, has half the cap hit, and had comparable production to Nylander. Get outta here
Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Why would Carolina do this?

Necas probably has more value than Nylander, but at worst it's equal. A pending UFA vs an RFA, Necas has half the cap hit and is 2 years younger. Pesce >>>>> Jarnkork + Timmins, why are Carolina adding?


I agree with this. Necas has a lower cap hit and seems like he will sign a 8x8 as an extention.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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Necas had 18 less points or something? You think he's got half the value? Are you delusional? A rental Nylander... Nylander's production will plummet the second he doesn't get time with Matthews or Tavares. We saw that he struggled in the postseason too with just one primary point all playoffs... stop it. Necas has his playoff demons, but at least he's 2 years younger, has half the cap hit, and had comparable production to Nylander. Get outta here


Necas has had 1 good season. Nylander has put up great numbers every year. Nylander has been a PPG player in the playoffs the last 3 years.

Necas at best is a 30 goal scorer HEs not a gamebreaker like Nylander

What is Necas AVV going to be next year?
Jul. 22, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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Necas has had 1 good season. Nylander has put up great numbers every year. Nylander has been a PPG player in the playoffs the last 3 years.

Necas at best is a 30 goal scorer HEs not a gamebreaker like Nylander

What is Necas AVV going to be next year?


Nylander has had 2 seasons of this quality. Necas is 2 years younger and has 1 already.

You ask what Necas' AAV is going to be, what's Nylanders going to be? Plus, Nylander can walk away. Necas cannot. He's got team control.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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Only way SJ is taking on veteran contracts is if its part of a Karlsson deal. Not a chance they take a 3rd goalie for that crap offer.


Leaf fans have been spending their time at the cottages telling themselves that every day that passes Murray becomes a more valuable asset.

Nylander being a Toronto UFA to be has tremendous value. If Nylander was coming from a US team to toronto the offer would be murray, robertson and 3rd
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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It is interesting, the fact you got Pesce AND Necas for Nylander.
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Jul. 22, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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Necas is not being traded for Nylaner unless Nylander has an acceptable extension
Jul. 22, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Nylander has had 2 seasons of this quality. Necas is 2 years younger and has 1 already.

You ask what Necas' AAV is going to be, what's Nylanders going to be? Plus, Nylander can walk away. Necas cannot. He's got team control.


Nylander has been putting up points since he joined the league he has 2 x PPG seasons and 5 seasons like Necas best season (this year) He has shown constancy.

as far as both their AVVs after this season that's my point they will be similar so that plays very little into Necas value for this season.

Necas does not have the same celling as Nylander so 2 years younger is irrelevant He's a 20 or 30 goal scorer at best Nylander is a minimum 30 goal scorer
Jul. 22, 2023 at 9:41 p.m.
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Nylander has been putting up points since he joined the league he has 2 x PPG seasons and 5 seasons like Necas best season (this year) He has shown constancy.

as far as both their AVVs after this season that's my point they will be similar so that plays very little into Necas value for this season.

Necas does not have the same celling as Nylander so 2 years younger is irrelevant He's a 20 or 30 goal scorer at best Nylander is a minimum 30 goal scorer


So you're saying they have the same potential as 30 goal scorers? Necas put up 28 this year when he played with Kotkaniemi and his linemate (Svechnikov) had his cruciate ligament detonate 2 months before the end of the season. Necas can easily hit 35+, and Nylander likely doesn't his 40 if he's not playing with the loaded talent around him. On top of that, Necas is just a better playmaker with the better speed. It's actually 3 years in age between Necas and Nylander, my mistake. Necas was 2017 draft class, Nylander was 2014. Even still, Necas is just the more valuable player here purely because of Nylanders rental status. Extended Nylander at a reasonable amount (say, 8.5x8) sure, absolutely. Rental? Nah, because of that team control on Necas
 
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