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Boqvist

Created by: futurebobmckenzie
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 23, 2023
Published: Jul. 23, 2023
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CBJ needs to move out a RHD and can’t imagine there will be any takers for Peeke. Boqvist seems to be the guy to get moved. If we can’t get EK, let’s get Boqvist. Figure Boqvist for the 3rd and 5th and Bemstrom for the 4th.
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Jul. 23, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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Would need a 1st for Boqvist. Especially so from a division rival. The Jackets don't have to part with him so no need to let him go this cheap.
Jul. 23, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: futurebobmckenzie
can’t imagine there will be any takers for Peeke


Every other CBJ-involved ACGM on here has a trade for Peeke. No takers for a minute-eating, right-shot, cost-controlled, young, physical D-man? I'm not a Peeke fan (which I say ad nauseum), but he's exactly the kind of player GMs tend to overpay for.

Boqvist lands a late-1st rounder (or early 2nd-rounder) or just stays with Columbus. We don't have to move anyone, it just makes sense to if we want to.
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Jul. 23, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman
Every other CBJ-involved ACGM on here has a trade for Peeke. No takers for a minute-eating, right-shot, cost-controlled, young, physical D-man? I'm not a Peeke fan (which I say ad nauseum), but he's exactly the kind of player GMs tend to overpay for.

Boqvist lands a late-1st rounder (or early 2nd-rounder) or just stays with Columbus. We don't have to move anyone, it just makes sense to if we want to.


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Would need a 1st for Boqvist. Especially so from a division rival. The Jackets don't have to part with him so no need to let him go this cheap.


A) you have too many RHD… Severson, Gudbranson, Boqvist, and Peeke on the right side. None of those guys are gonna be scratched either. Log jam at right D. You need to move somebody out. You’re not moving Severson and nobody wants Gudbranson or Peeke.

B) Peeke was not good in his own zone last year. As a defensive defenseman he needs to be. He’s overpaid too. if Peeke was as good as you’re claiming then he would’ve been moved by now.
Jul. 23, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: futurebobmckenzie
A) you have too many RHD… Severson, Gudbranson, Boqvist, and Peeke on the right side. None of those guys are gonna be scratched either. Log jam at right D. You need to move somebody out. You’re not moving Severson and nobody wants Gudbranson or Peeke.

B) Peeke was not good in his own zone last year. As a defensive defenseman he needs to be. He’s overpaid too. if Peeke was as good as you’re claiming then he would’ve been moved by now.


It’s amazing to see someone be wrong so many times in one comment.
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Jul. 23, 2023 at 1:28 p.m.
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A) you have too many RHD… Severson, Gudbranson, Boqvist, and Peeke on the right side. None of those guys are gonna be scratched either. Log jam at right D. You need to move somebody out. You’re not moving Severson and nobody wants Gudbranson or Peeke.


I'm well aware we have too many RD, when healthy. We also played 14 defensemen last season, 7 of whom were RD. Gudbranson could very easily be scratched while Severson, Peeke, and Boqvist hold down the right side while everyone is healthy. Blankenburg, Jiricek, Bjork, and Sweezy could all come up from the AHL, but only Blanks and Jiricek are really NHL-level right now. So we're two injuries away from a sub-replacement-level D-man playing consistently on the right side...there's no hurry to just move people, and certainly not to a division rival for a s*** return just because.

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B) Peeke was not good in his own zone last year. As a defensive defenseman he needs to be. He’s overpaid too. if Peeke was as good as you’re claiming then he would’ve been moved by now.


I called him a "minute-eating, right-shot, cost-controlled, young, physical D-man", then qualified that I'm not a fan. I never claimed he is good. But there's plenty of people fooled by his 197 blocks last season that would take a chance on a 25-year-old RD making $2.75M for the next 3 years, and that's exactly the kind of player old-head GMs love to go get. For context, he'd be tied with Rutta for 5th-highest-paid Pens D-man, it's not exactly a back-breaking contract.

Of the two, it's better to sell high on Peeke, whose minutes and blocks last season likely won't be matched for the rest of his career, instead of selling low on Boqvist, who looked like an excellent puck-mover when healthy, but can't stay healthy enough to prove it. Regardless, there's no rush to move either.
Jul. 23, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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It’s amazing to see someone be wrong so many times in one comment.


Quoting: CaseyFlyman
I'm well aware we have too many RD, when healthy. We also played 14 defensemen last season, 7 of whom were RD. Gudbranson could very easily be scratched while Severson, Peeke, and Boqvist hold down the right side while everyone is healthy. Blankenburg, Jiricek, Bjork, and Sweezy could all come up from the AHL, but only Blanks and Jiricek are really NHL-level right now. So we're two injuries away from a sub-replacement-level D-man playing consistently on the right side...there's no hurry to just move people, and certainly not to a division rival for a s*** return just because.



I called him a "minute-eating, right-shot, cost-controlled, young, physical D-man", then qualified that I'm not a fan. I never claimed he is good. But there's plenty of people fooled by his 197 blocks last season that would take a chance on a 25-year-old RD making $2.75M for the next 3 years, and that's exactly the kind of player old-head GMs love to go get. For context, he'd be tied with Rutta for 5th-highest-paid Pens D-man, it's not exactly a back-breaking contract.

Of the two, it's better to sell high on Peeke, whose minutes and blocks last season likely won't be matched for the rest of his career, instead of selling low on Boqvist, who looked like an excellent puck-mover when healthy, but can't stay healthy enough to prove it. Regardless, there's no rush to move either.


You’re funny if you think Gudbranson is sitting with a 4M contract. Peeke is not good idk what other way I can spell it out for you. Like in the original comment nobody is going to overpay for a defenseman who can only block shots. who cares if he’s minute eating if he sucks while he’s out there. Saying i’m the one that’s wrong is laughable. I can admit that Boqvist is probably worth more than the deal I proposed but to say that teams are willing to overpay for Peeke is laughable. And we all know Gudbranson isn’t gonna sit with a 4M contact. That’s foolish. I know I lowballed the deal but man you guys are just so blatantly wrong it’s painful to talk to.
Jul. 23, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
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You’re funny if you think Gudbranson is sitting with a 4M contract. Peeke is not good idk what other way I can spell it out for you. Like in the original comment nobody is going to overpay for a defenseman who can only block shots. who cares if he’s minute eating if he sucks while he’s out there. Saying i’m the one that’s wrong is laughable. I can admit that Boqvist is probably worth more than the deal I proposed but to say that teams are willing to overpay for Peeke is laughable. And we all know Gudbranson isn’t gonna sit with a 4M contact. That’s foolish. I know I lowballed the deal but man you guys are just so blatantly wrong it’s painful to talk to.


You're just dancing around the entire point of my comment. Peeke isn't good, I know that, I'm living on that hill and watched him all season. It's not me you have to convince. He's not loved by analytics and honestly there's not much in points or the eye test to defend him either. However, there's so many people that see him as a 2RD-3RD option with the tools to become a legit defensive defenseman under a competent coach that someone would pay for him if Jarmo decides he's the one that has to move. Right now we'd probably get a better return on actual value on Peeke (who had a weird season) than Boqvist (who had a very hurt season). There's probably 100 ACGM's here for different teams willing to spend a 2nd on him. He's overpaid but not egregiously like Gudbranson. I'd ship him out for a 3rd or 4th just to see him off my team.

Not sitting a worse player because he makes too much money is a loser mentality, it would be foolish to play Gudbranson if there's better options. But sit Peeke for all I care, either way the right side is Boqvist, Severson, and Peeke/Gudbranson (with one sitting) until Boqvist inevitably gets hurt, there's still no need to move a RD, and thus no need to sell low.

"blatantly wrong it’s painful to talk to" - Finally, what the f*** is this, 2nd grade? It's a discussion board, we're talking fantasy hockey trades (which so far have been reasonable trades with reasonable rebuttals). There's different opinions, there's no need for this.
 
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